Murder Alibis, Missing Persons, And Minds That See Beyond with Carissa

What if the clock strikes 2:30 AM twice and truth splits with it? We kick off with daylight saving time’s strange logic, how “fall back” creates duplicate hours, and why that matters for alibis, timestamps, and the way we trust time itself. From there we slide into the human edge of mystery: a woman found six decades after vanishing who chose to stay hidden, and a long-missing daughter reunited as her parent faces charges linked to a custody battle. These stories aren’t just headlines; they’re collisions of agency, grief, and the messy systems that try to sort them.

Then we go deeper—into the mind and maybe beyond it. Are the voices some people hear only symptoms, or thin spots between realities? We unpack schizophrenia with care: the idea of double bookkeeping, living in a shared world and a private one at once; the role of trauma; the different onset patterns across genders; and how stigma turns pain into exile. We don’t throw science out the window, but we do ask whether spiritual sensitivity and clinical labels sometimes overlap in ways that deserve more humility.

We keep the tone human—jokes about spice names, sloths that outlive our guesses, and the maddening luck of lottery numbers—because life’s weirdness refuses to stay in one lane. That thread pulls us into weather that feels off-script, fog that raises eyebrows, and the broader question of how suspicion grows when trust erodes. Finally, we open the door to near-death experiences and the afterlife described as awareness without a body—energy choosing where to land, loved ones recognized beyond form, and the possibility that death is an alternate reality where memory sets the scene.

If you’re into true crime curiosities, missing person breakthroughs, mental health seen with compassion, and paranormal puzzles told with heart and humor, you’ll feel at home here. Hit play, subscribe, and leave a review with your take: are we hearing ghosts, glitches, or the mind’s best attempt to map a larger world?

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Good evening everyone. Welcome back to Strange Strange Beyond Insane. And this is your host, Melissa. And I have my ho my co-host. I was gonna say my ho ho! My ho. My ho. This Kerpissaw, and I am so excited to be on tonight. It's been a minute. It's been a long time. Yeah. Too long, too long. But you know, life gets fucking in the way. That's right. So I'm going into this podcast blind. She has some ideas that she wants to talk about. Yeah, there's a few things. Like, this is kind of gonna be all over. Like it's not one I hate this word specific topic. So drum roll for the first one. Okay, question. So, you know that daylight savings time just happened. Correct. And do you even know why it was originally started? For farmers, the kids, and the bus? Actually, World War II. Because they needed the coal for supplying the ships and you know, needing all the energy and stuff. So, what they did is ration to us everyday people that were not in the you know fighting the war. And so if we gained an extra hour of sunlight that used less coal and consumable energy, and I mean it does make sense, it helps out farmers and you know. You know, it's for the kids, the what what I was told is for the kids on the bus stops. Oh, okay. To be able to see. Well, they're trying to get rid of it. I know they've been trying to for years, and honestly, I I hate it. I know, but I got a question. So, okay, say, you know, when the clock falls back, so fall back, say you murdered somebody on daylight savings time, like, especially when the clock shifts from, you know, 2 or I should say 2 a.m. becomes 1 a.m. Then if you think about it, the same hour occurs twice. So an alibi for the second 2:30 in the morning does not cover the first 2:30 in the morning. Wait, are we talking about fall back or now or spring? Fall back. Okay. When the time falls back. When in the fall. Yep. But I mean, think about it. Like, I know that police and you know, they have ways of determining what time that specific alibi took place. But I don't know. I thought it was kind of interesting. Like, you could get away with murdering your husband and still have a good alibi. I'm just saying, ladies, just saying. She's just saying. Talking for a friend. Yes, exactly. No, but there's I guess a way to establish the time. There's the EDT and the EST, which is the daylight or the standard time. But, anyways, just a thought. Thought about murder on a if it fell right on fallback. Right, we're going to be able to do that. What about spring forward? That I I didn't really think that much into it. I wonder if you so what once what time does it turn back? At midnight? It goes from like it'll be 1.59 in the morning and then it'll hit 2 in the morning, and then it'll go back to 2 in the morning. Wow. Yeah. Which sucked because when, you know, back in my bar days, you never actually got the extra hour. Ever. The way that they work at even the bars, they're like, nope, 2 o'clock, that's it. Even if it goes back, it doesn't matter. Like, you don't gain an extra bar hour. But um, I guess you want to hear some weird questions first, and then we'll get into stories, or would you like me to do some stories? Whatever. In between the questions. Whatever you want to do. Okay. If we were to get arrested, what would you have done to get us in trouble? Definitely go back into a spot that they told me not to go into. The cemetery or haunted. And would I have to bail you out, or would I be sitting next to you? You'd be sitting next to me. Duh. That should have been a no-brainer. I don't know though. She isn't Gemini, so she's pretty witty, so I'm sure she'd be able to talk herself out. And she'd be like, oh yeah, I'm getting you out too. But it'd be like three days later. I'm sorry, I could only, you know, at least one of us. I had to get the bail money together. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But damn, we had a good time doing it. Oh boy. Um, if you could ban one food forever, what would it be? Ban one food forever. Mm-hmm. I know, tough one. Beets. Beets are gross. Yeah. I would say peas. I like peas. Oh, what's wrong with peas? I like the sweet peas. They're gross. Thanks. They're gross. Thank you. Um, so we were just talking about it earlier, and I thought it was kind of cool to share um that disappearance of that lady. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did see that. Yeah, so this lady was found 60 years after she disappeared. She wanted to be hidden. God bless her. You know what? Leave her be. Let her live her best fucking life. She was 20 years old when she left. Like it so, didn't she? Uh, that I don't remember. I think she was a baby babysitting. Oh, did she like stage her own disappearance? Uh, okay, so it says she was 20 years old when she disappeared um in July of 1962, according to the Wisconsin Department of Justice. It says the family's babysitter claimed that the two of them hitchhiked to Madison about 55 miles away, and then took a Greyhound bus to Indianapolis, Indiana. She said she last saw her name's Audrey, walking around the corner away from the bus stop. Audrey never returned home and has not been heard from again. Well, some detectives did their job and found her, and she didn't want to be found. So, okay, if they could someone privately paid, because why can't they find all the missing people then? Right. Not to get dark and you know sad, but you know how I am. You know where my brain goes. Okay, what about- But she also said that she was happy and confident with her decision. There was no regrets. Like, I don't think I could do that. I don't. As much as I would love to disappear and say that I would, I know I would end up calling somebody. Just let them know that you're okay. Yes. I think I would too. My conscience would get to me. Absolutely. But I mean, we don't know her circumstances either of why she disappeared. Maybe she had a good reasoning. That's what I was thinking. Did she get beat or yeah? So, did you hear about this story? What? It goes with that one, Michelle Marie Newton. No, I don't think so. So, Michelle Marie Newton, born October 5th, 1979, is an American woman who was abducted as a child by her own mother with both having been missing for 42 years. Her mother, Deborah Newton, was arrested by authorities on November 24th, 2025, in Marion County, Florida, following a Crime Stopper's tale. Oh shit. Dude, so the neighbor, they were in like the um vacationing, you know, like when my grandparents used to stay in the trailer park for the old people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the snowbirds. And the neighbor was walking the dog, and they're like, the cops come off blah blah. They start walking towards them. This reminded me of me and you. I thought I sent it to you, and the the lady pal was like, Oh shit, they're coming for you, Michelle. Like joking, and the cops are like, Yeah, actually. And they're like, What? And they're going on and on, and her gale pal was like, ah, you gotta be kidding. And she's like getting close to the cops, and they are about to take her down. They're like, No, she's getting arrested today on a missing person, blah blah blah. But, anyways, it's and it was her daughter that's it went viral. I think woman who was abducted. No, I don't was she, I don't know if she was a birth mother. Oh. I don't think she was. Mother arrested after allegedly stealing own daughter. So a Kentucky woman who was reported missing. There's a lot, huh? I mean, I can see a reasoning why you would kidnap your own daughter. No, this is Deborah Newton. Kentucky woman who was reported missing in 1983 has been reunited with her family as her mother faces charges. No, she stole this girl that she's not the mom. Oh. So the girl is Do you think she knew? Probably not. Arresting, um, they arrested her for stealing her own daughter, Michelle Newton, in the middle of a custody case. See, I said there's that's I think the main reason why people end up kidnapping their own children or somebody else, mostly their own. Is custody. Is this uh birth daughter though? She's three years old when her mother, Deborah Newton, did from Kentucky to Georgia before they vanished. The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. Yeah, okay, so it was her actual biological daughter. Wow. And this is an age-progressed photo, so that was her in 1983, and that's her today. Crazy. She looks still a lot like herself. Uh-huh. Huh. She looks like a little Karen. Alright. Hit me with your hit me with your best shot. So have you ever thought about um people that are schizophrenic? And how if they hear voices are they spiritual or is it in a parallel universe? Are they hearing or seeing? I'm glad you brought this up from another dimension. Are they just more in tune with their special abilities? Or is it really the mind just making these you know scenarios up in their mind or having them hear things that are? I don't know about the gate program, right? For like the special smart kids. No, so that kind of ties into that. Okay, that's a lot of layers, but I I like that you brought this up because I don't think everyone that they label mentally ill is actually ill. No, I think they can see into other dimensions, parallel universes, absolutely. Yeah, and I think they have connections to even the spiritual realm that you know somebody like myself does not have. But I'll say this like, you know, Jackson, he's not schizophrenic, you know, he's autistic, you know, Asperger's, but you know, when he was younger, he would see spirits. Um, you know, when my grandma passed away, um, Jackson was only two and a half. Well, a lot of kids do though, because they're still innocent. Yes. That goes away when you get older. Yeah. Because society tells you to. Correct. And I'm not one to tell him that those things don't exist. Like, you know, the things that are going on in my house today, um, it freaks Jackson out. But that's so that's more like spiritually gifted, but schizophrenia gifted, I think, is two different things because there's big layers. I actually think that sometimes when they most schizophrenic people aren't always violent. No. They get mis Well, the reason just real quick about Jackson, I have an uncle, great uncle, that was schizophrenic. Yeah. So I'm just saying, you know, any mental or but I think the mental part though, the schizophrenia, I think it makes them violent sometimes. Yes. Because they're seeing bad, like, say like a shadow or like the hat man comes and like takes over because like attaches to a body. And I think when they see that, they're like, they know it's bad. Right. I think that's what different for oh my gosh. Differentiates. Differentiates. I mean, look at I'm still like, you know, special. I'm like, I can't even talk, so I'm so excited about this topic. But I think that's like what separates the two. I think like spiritually gifted is like fucks your own self up more because you're so you know, you such a strong empath. But I think schizophrenic, those kind of gifts or curses, I think are way too different things. Yes. Because that's why I think they become violent sometimes, because they see a bad entity attached to someone and they're like, fuck that thing, it's bad. Right. We'll see, and that's where like they call it distorted reality. It's a break from reality, often feels like living in a parallel universe where the same environment exists, but the perception of it is deeply altered. Yeah, yeah. I've been reading, I've been seeing a lot of things. I think it's really interesting. Um, it's called double bookkeeping, and it's coined by Eugene. I I'm probably mispronouncing the last name, but Blue Lur. Um, and this refers to the ability of psychotic patients to live in two sometimes contradictory worlds at the same time, the share world and a private world of the delusions or the hallucinations. Can you imagine fucking living like that though? No, I cut it. I follow torments some of them go through like that. It really is. But okay, so this is where so this is a question for you about your own question. Okay. So I used to cut this family's hair, and she used to bring her brother in sometimes, but he was schizophrenic. But he he gained schizophrenia when he was like 14 after because he used to get bullied on the bus all the time, and she kept telling her mom to pull him from the school, and her mom won it, and they beat him so fucking bad, they kept beating his head in that he later developed schizophrenia. But then other people I've talked to, even like um nurses, said that there was it was already underlining. Okay, so okay, so keep that in mind. So this was already there, they beat him so bad, gave him a head injury, schizophrenic ways come out, right? He gets diagnosed with schizophrenia. But what if, and listen, I do not condone fucking bullying at all. Oh, me. But what if those kids could feel that energy or see something on him? Was he a target? Hmm. Or was he a target because he was different? That's what but that's what I'm saying. Like, maybe those kids that's what I'm saying. They knew he was different. So there's like layers to that too, but he like as he got older, he progressed way worse. And I thought schizophrenia with males, it will come out. Well, let's look it up. Okay. Um, what age, let's see. What age for boys is it's how do you spell it? Um, S C H I Z O. Uh P H R E N I A. Oh, eight between 18 and 25. I knew it was older, but some of it can occur sooner. Okay, now this is what I remember when I knew somebody was in the hospital. Okay. Um, while girls tend to be diagnosed in their late 20s to early 30s. Okay. Which wouldn't it be the other way around because women develop quicker than men? See, there's so many layers, it's a good good episode. We're gonna have to do a deep dive. I've I'll do more research on this because it is a very interesting subject to me. And I think not only because it's paranormal related, too, in a sense. Oh, absolutely. Um I just think people with mental disorders, it's very interesting. I mean, shit, we all have some kind of mental health issue that we're fighting. Absolutely, and I think that's why people need to be kinder in this fucking world because you don't know what the other person is. And mental America is a big thing. Absolutely. Just because you look quote unquote normal doesn't mean you're not correct. Absolutely. So, but I just I thought that that was just really an interesting topic. I like that. Yeah. We're gonna have to do some more deep dives on that because there's so many more questions that I have. Um, all right, so back to maybe some weird questions for a second. If you had to change your name to a spice, what would it be? Ooh. I know. And you better not say mine. Kayan Melly. Cinnamon Carissa. My dad would date it a cinnamon. My horse's name was cinnamon. She was a stripper. Actually, she might have been married to her because he was married two or three times before my mom. You didn't know that, did you? No. Yeah, to a Melissa, a Missy. Really? Mm-hmm. Hmm. Slut. Um, I was gonna ask you what the last thing you googled, because we always look up weird shit, but we Well, let's see on my phone inside of the computer right in front of you. Buzz Sprout, Amazon, strange drain should be on insane. Just worried about yourself, huh? Well, you know. What's the last thing you looked up? Pray porn hub. Sweet. Let's see. What's the one? I didn't hear me say it. Dang cook, really. Thank God we have explicit on here. Um, I looked up how long sloths live. How long what? Sloths. Why, you want a fucking sloth now? I would love one. And they live in time. Now she's hoarding fucking animals. First, she wanted a goddamn baby, then I pop out a baby. So I got my baby loving. Yeah, but now she doesn't want a baby. She's got a she got a puppy, she wants a sloth, she wants a skunk. She wants a fucking skunk. Another horse would be wonderful. What else do you want? Oh my gosh, a fox. But guess how long sloths lived for in Captain? 43 years. 40 to 50. Good job. Damn, I'm good. I wonder. Choo, choo, choo, choo. No, you're supposed to clap your little shoulder. Clap your back. I do the train. Choo, choo. Reminds me of the song. Uh come on, Brad. Train. Okay, squirrel moment. Um, anyways. Anyways, hold on, I get a question for you that I wanted to ask you. Okay. Shit, I already forgot it. Keep going. Oh, uh, the other story I wanted to mention was this lady in, I believe it was uh North Carolina. She's been using the same lottery numbers for years. And she won two prizes within like three years of each other, the same exact numbers. And uh it just brought me, she won a hundred thousand dollars on one of them. Could you imagine what you do with a hundred thousand dollars? I mean, I won$500 and I thought I won$500,000. I have to last. I wait, I I won$80 at the casino and I was like, winning, dude, even$100 is a win. Yeah, I mean$500,000. I mean, that would help me out a lot more. A little bit. Just saying, universe. But I was telling you earlier how um somebody's friend plays the same numbers, and that particular night he asked his spouse to pick up the lottery ticket that night, and she picked up the beer but forgot the lottery ticket. His numbers played, and he was pissed. Which I mean, can you blame him? No, no, I'd be pretty pissed too, but that's why I don't play the lotto like religiously. That way I can't get mad at myself if like my numbers came up. And then, um, trying to think. Oh, last question. Would you rather never wash your bed sheets again or never wash your bath towel again? Tough question. Bed sheets. I got really I need my bath. Yeah. Well wait, like, how that you wrap yourself in, or the one that you get out onto, like the one on the ground. No, the one you wipe yourself in. Yeah, no, bath towel. I gotta have a crisp, warm, smelling good. Ugh. Both of them are just gross. But yeah. That is all I have for today. Wasn't like a crazy amount. I love it. But I want to deep, dive deeper into the schizophrenia in the parallel universe's one nine. Okay. Yeah, we can do that. I'm time for my question. Okay. Alright, what do you think about this fog in Michigan? Do you believe that they sprayed something into the air? Well, it's no different asking me if I believe in chemtrails. Right, but hey, listen, you're only a few years older than me, so not much. Right. When do you ever remember the fog being like this? Like, did you drive during the day when the fog? Yes. Okay, when do you remember it being like this in the winter? I don't. Do you remember tornadoes in fucking March? No. So do you believe that the weather is manipulated? Absolutely, 100%. I've always thought that the government controls our weather. Absolutely. That's why we have weather balloons, we have I mean, they say that they can predict. No, they already fucking know. They already know. And they control us by how they use the weather. I mean, don't you remember a couple years ago it was like a big TikTok trend to light the snow on fire. Oh, yeah. And black flame or black smoke was coming up. Yeah. And they're like, don't let your kids eat the snow. We bet, we always ate snow. As long as it wasn't yellow, you were safety. Oh, you're gross. That's what's wrong with you, probably. Probably. I probably thought it was Mountain Dew. My brother was probably like, it's about dew, just drink it. Okay. It was Mountain Dew at one time. Alright, so I got a good question for you. Okay. Let me just stretch for this. Oh boy. Now I'm nervous. I follow this chick now on TikTok that had this like crazy experience. And we've all heard about like near death experiences or like when people actually die, then they come back and they tell you what happens. What would like I shouldn't say what would you what would you do? How would you feel is it if you actually had that kind of experience and you actually knew what happens, at least for you in your afterlife, what that would look like. Would you still want to do paranormal stuff? Think about that hard. Yeah. Like if you already knew what was gonna like, would you still be so intact with paranormal? I think yes, because you know that that is going to be like what other people could experience from yourself. But is that everyone's experience or was that just for you? And if you were to really die after that, would your experience look the same? You don't know. I mean, if you have a near-death experience or you die and come back, like that changes you as a person completely. But since you already know at least that time, what happens for you, would you still want to be involved with paranormal? Yes, I think I would. Okay. You I would hope so, yeah. Yeah. I would hope so. But I guess you don't know unless it really happens. Yeah. Which I let's she didn't see a light or anything, but the way she described it was exactly how my mother-in-law did, and it's really cool. Uh my uh husband's aunt, she uh uh recently flatlined and they brought her back and we talked a little bit. Actually, we should probably get around the shower. Yeah, that's it. She's very much into paranormal, her house is haunted. Oh, this is the one I was telling you that we gotta go investigate. Um, water turns on by itself and the cupboard zone here. Um Farmington, maybe. Oh, it's allowed in Farmington. Yeah, it's like a 45-minute driver. Yep. So we need to get her on. Her name's Janine, and she is very, very, very interesting. Well, the way that Sue described it in this lady, it's like you are a being. You know that you're a being, but you're not a human. Like it's you're like a ball, and you're energy. Like you're just and you no no matter what, you ultimately it depends on you where you land. Yeah. Whether you're coming back or you're staying. Do you think um that how do you think people will see you when you have passed away? Are they gonna see you at different stages of your life? Like when I think of meeting my grandma again, I wanna see like the six-year-old version of my grandma, the one I heard. You think that's what it is? You know, because or maybe your alternate, you because they're saying now that death is just an alternate reality. Yes. So maybe it's in your reality. That's the thing too. Like, so I not to I'm trying to like sum this up, but do you remember after I got my eye fixed? Because you know I didn't know I was blind, obviously. Right. When I got do you remember when you came over here the first time and I looked at you, I'm like, wow, I was like, wow, you look really pretty. I'm like, you look like 5D, like I like your face. And I kept telling everyone, I'm like, I really like your face. People were like, what the like I was even telling my own husband, like, you're really cute, like you're good looking. Like, right, because I never knew that I didn't have until it was enhanced. Well, no, my eye was blind. Well, I know, but now your eye is an enhanced and you can see it. It's worse, exactly. It's not even enhanced, it actually works. Like, I see, but now I'm going, you know, cross-eyed when I you know zoom in. Right. But like I think of death like that, like if with one eye or two eyes, right? But they're saying that it's an alternate reality. So maybe in your reality, your grandma looks awesome how you remember her, but maybe in her reality, she remembers herself being 20. Right. Because I know that when I deep. Sorry. No, but like this is like a really good. Yeah. Damn. See, like, my mom always comes different ways when I had dreamt of her. See, and that's the thing. I but was that my reality or hers? Hers, exactly. Because I I have a feeling that like Jackson's gonna want to see me. How he remembers. Yes. Or his favorite time. It could have been like when you guys were outside eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, the year of 2022. Right. It's just it's crazy to think, you know, because people say that, you know, when you go to where you go and you are reunited with past ones, that you know exactly who they are. But yet, people are only seeing themselves as, you know, energy, not as the human form. So how do I know? Because they're saying that we here we're in the matrix and that this is a school, and when we leave our shells, like it's a different reality, like, yeah, but that what like why does our brain naturally produce DMT? Because one someone will say to not scare you for dying, the other person will say, It's because that is your true, that is like your truest, highest soft, highest power, highest, you know, yep. Well, it's no different than I feel like, you know, in each universe or each time we're reborn, we're here to learn a different lesson. And I think, like me, knock on wood, I have not broken a bone. And they say it's because you're spiritually protected, because we've gone through those hardships in previous lifetimes, and in this life, it's because we've been through so much trauma that we're learning. Yeah, we're learning other lessons, not I don't know. Well, it's supposed to be because you're first of all, you're you're spiritually protected, and that the trauma, the emotional and the mental, is way worse than breaking a bone. That's why so many abused women will say, I'd rather you fucking punch me and get it over with than you for you to mentally abuse me. Because mental hurts way more than physical. Yes. And we both have been through a lot of trauma. Yeah. In your own way, in my own way, death, this, that. And there's just different things that we have to learn in each lifetime. And I don't know. It's really interesting to think. Now, do you think you this is do you think you have more reincarnation to do back here on Earth? Um, I think I am if I do, I only have a few more. Okay, do you want to come back to Earth? I do. You want to look like Marilyn Monroe? She was fucking gorgeous. And you know what? People idolize her all the time, and she did not have the perfect body, she had goals. And I fucking love that about her. Yeah, she was still an icon. So fuck yeah, I'll take that. But you know, I hope that I still have the core people that I have in my life now that I truly love and adore. I hope that they're in my next lifetime. Well, if you see fucking Marilyn Monroe, then I'm gonna be. What are you gonna be? I don't know, Megan Fox. She's got weird toe thumbs. Pick somebody else. Oh, yeah, you're right. You did tell me about that. Yeah, and then you couldn't unsee it. Just trust me on that one. Um, Mila Kunis. She's gorgeous. Take it. Okay. Absolutely. You did tell me about the fucking toe thumbs. Yeah. Oh god, they're so fucking weird. What gives you toe thumbs? I don't know. But we don't have them. This one almost is. Let me see. No, that's not a toe. It's just thubby. That's a thumb. Just stubby. The toad. Okay, so what was your favorite last spooky thing that you watched? Please don't fucking tell me ghosts. Ghost Avengers, girl. No, I'm just kidding. You guys, if you hear a scream, you didn't hear anything. Just go about your business. You're killing me here, Smalls. Um, the last spooky thing I would say would be on TikTok. Um, of course it's not like a movie or documentary. She falls asleep during movies. I do. Documentaries, oh, they relax me and I love them, and I have to re-watch them like three times to make it through. Um, she can do like, she can do like docuseries and small shorts, small shorts. If they're an hour each, I'm good.

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Spices, Sloths, And Laughs

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I can so what's so what was so spooky? Like, what was this about? Was it the schizophrenia thing? Uh, no, no, no. Um, hold on. She forgot already. I did, but I know it was on TikTok. Believe me, I know it was on TikTok. Oh, why are we not building new cemeteries? I thought that that was really interesting. But because they're buried on top of one another. It was this video of this girl, and I don't know why. It's not the scariest thing, but I think it was really sweet in a way. But her sister was dying of cancer, and when she passed, she said to her sister, I'm gonna fuck with you. I seen this on my three. Wait, yes, yes. See? Dude, it was it was on the date she left, it was on the date that she promised she would haunt her. Yes. Yep. So I thought that that was really cool, paranormal. I love that. Yeah, so did I. I think like if a soul is strong enough, and I don't mean like I shouldn't say strength, but like I have a one-track mind. Like, I'm like, what I what I want, I'm gonna like even I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it. So like I think I'm the same. Yeah. I think I'd be a real pest. So like don't maybe don't tell me like to haunt you, cuz I might taunt me. I might be like, hey, I'm gonna turn on the spare box and be like, stop it, Mal. It is fucking 4 30 in the goddamn morning. I have to wake up for work. I'm gonna be trying to get freaky deepy and I'm like, eh! You nasty. You guys can be like, seriously, sister wives after death. Oh my. Oh shit. Alright, I think that sums it up for tonight. Yes. But I do want you to do like a deep dive. Oh, we forgot to talk about the lobotomies. Oh, yeah. We'll get into that with the schizophrenia and lobotomies. Yep. Because you know that they write that shit down on paper so we don't forget. I don't know how to spell that. Schiz and lobots. And lobots? Question mark. Cool. Well, thank you guys for listening. And thank you for having me on. Always. I'm glad you came on. And again, you guys can find, I should say, listen to this podcast on any major streaming service. You listen, you know, usually Spotify, Apple, iHeart, Amazon. YouTube Music. Yep, YouTube, it's on. Who else is it on? I'm like on like YouTube UK and I'm on like um Amazon UK, then I'm on like Amazon with different languages. I didn't know that. Oh, that's kind of cool. It's like Japanese and but we do have national lip listeners. That's yes. So, and thank you guys for listening. And also, if you have stories, comments, questions, please email us. We love getting emails and responding to them. That is at Ghost Sisters twenty one twenty-four at gmail.com. Ghost Sisters twenty-one twenty-four at gmail.com. Um, and thanks for listening. And thanks for having me on. I I thank you. Thank you.