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Birthday Hauntings and Human Pendulums at the Fairfield County Poorhouse Pt. 1
The Fairfield County Poorhouse investigation delivers consistent, compelling evidence that leaves us wanting more. Built in 1828 with a peak population of 82 "inmates" (as patients were called then), the property carries heavy historical weight that seems to fuel its paranormal activity.
Beneath the surface lies a disturbing discovery – the cemetery houses thousands of bodies buried standing up, with only six proper headstones purchased by families. This disrespect in death seems to amplify the spiritual energy that permeates the location. We encounter several spirits including Willie, an abolitionist who wanders the halls searching for something lost, and tragically, Jane Householder, who suffered an agonizing death after her clothes caught fire from a gas stove.
Our investigation yields remarkable results through multiple techniques. The "human pendulum" experiment produces immediate responses as spirits use an investigator's body to communicate through subtle movements. Even more compelling is what happens during our spirit box sessions – two investigators at opposite ends of the attic, both wearing noise-canceling headphones, unknowingly begin answering each other's questions through spirit communication. This cross-location communication, impossible through normal means, suggests entities actively facilitating conversation between separate areas.
Physical encounters intensify as the night progresses, with investigators experiencing extreme cold spots and the sensation of cobwebs moving across skin. Our most unnerving moment comes when unmistakable footsteps in the attic prompt concerns about a possible intruder, leading to a hasty exit through an emergency door while waiting for security to clear the building.
Beyond this investigation, we dive into broader paranormal topics, including the supposedly relocated Annabelle doll and its potential connection to recent disasters, and the shifting energy we're feeling in the spiritual realm as we move further into 2024. We sense increased sensitivity and more frequent compelling evidence, coinciding with what feels like a collective spiritual awakening.
Intrigued by the paranormal? Join us for future investigations and follow our journey as we continue exploring the strange deranged beyond insane.
Good evening everyone. Welcome back to the Strange, strange Beyond Insane podcast. This is your host speaking, melissa, and I have special guest slash birthday girl that is going to talk about I want her to talk about, like her POV, basically on a recent haunt that we went to in. I'm sorry you guys, I always fuck up the location, it's Fairfield County but I'm going to let Carissa get on here and talk about some history and everything else that she needs to say about it, because I told her it's her birthday gift, pick where you want to go, and she picked this place and I was extremely satisfied, so let's get her on here.
Speaker 2:Welcome Hi. So I think this was like like one of our better investigations, Like we had a lot of action, yes, Like I felt like it was something every at least once an hour. Yeah, I think that's freaking phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, the end of the night was like jackpot for me, but I'm going to let you. Oh yeah, yeah well, the end of the night was like jackpot for me, but I'm going to let you. Oh yeah, I'm going to let you run this girl and you do it how you want. If you want to start off with some history and all that, just remind the listeners, you know that we have a bunch of lives that we're going to be following with this.
Speaker 2:Yes, so a little history on the Canfield County Refrigeraryatory. You never say it. I hate that word. Poorhouse, we'll go with. Poorhouse, there you go. Um, it was built in. What was it? 1828 and um, that's just. I know that at capacity the record population was 82 inmates in 1903. And that's what they used to call. Them was inmates, but nowadays they would have been called patients. So they had like in the beginning, when I was like looking into a little bit of the history, it was kind of cool Like they did a lot for these patients, like Lancaster residents would donate like Christmas gifts. They had ice cream socials, local band and orchestras playing music for the old folks. But obviously not all the times were good. But obviously not all the times were good. And did you want to talk a little bit about the cemetery first?
Speaker 1:whatever you, I'm letting you. It's your lead, this was your, this was your investigation. I just followed okay.
Speaker 2:So behind the building there's a cemetery, and I forgot how many exactly is in the cemetery, but I know the entire area. There's almost 3,000 bodies and I was told by shout out, first of all the Mr Cards, so Lisa, holly and Olivia. They were so much fun to be with and I really hope I can investigate with them again. But anyways, one of them had said that you know how like bodies, when they're put in the ground they like lay flat, right? Well, these bodies are standing up. And there was only six headstones, right? Well, these bodies are standing up. Yes, and there was only six headstones that families actually bought for the cemetery. It really kind of breaks my heart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember. So we're going to replace some of a little bit of the history from Patience that was her name that did the tour for us. Yes, she was great too, but I like we're not going to do all of it because that's going to bore you guys. So Chris is just kind of like hitting the bullet points before she gets into, like, her experiences, but that was probably the most disturbing thing that I heard about the place, to be honest yes, I agree, and so I guess there's a few different spirits that are there.
Speaker 2:The one that I guess is the most well-known which, excuse me, is the most well-known? Which, excuse me, I'm wondering. You remember when we were looking down the hall and we saw that?
Speaker 1:shadow, like all of us did, um the second floor right. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:I think we saw his name is Willie. His name is Willie, and so I looked him up and it says he's a abolition who is sent off to second and third floors. And then he said Willie seems lost, like he's looking for something he's almost always seen walking aimlessly through the halls, stopping occasionally to peer out windows.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I remember she didn't really go over that too much. Uh windows. Okay, yeah, I remember she didn't really go over that too much. Uh-oh. Okay, because I remember you. But.
Speaker 2:I think we saw resident Lily.
Speaker 1:So I want to remind you guys, too, like my new. For me personally, I like letting the girls pick out the locations. Now, whether it's her or Christina or whatever, I love the locations that they pick out. They do an amazing job, and I do not look up any history. In fact, I didn't even know what this place was called.
Speaker 2:I know you went in completely blank. I went in just a little blind.
Speaker 1:So it was really cool that Carissa had already kind of like did some history, like she did a little bit of digging on this. I find it really fun, I think, like her and Christine are really good researchers and investigators too. But I like to just kind of like chill out and kind of like be like, hey, take you know, pick a place and let's go, and then I loved it. I mean I think it was, it was a great, great location.
Speaker 2:But yeah, go ahead um, so there's uh, another, uh ghost that her name is suzy, and she's seen in like a few different locations, like around the morgue and doorways of former offices I don't know if it's doctor offices or exactly what it is. I did not see her so, but she is said to be a young blonde girl who appears sad or lonely. Oh, that's sad. Oh, that's sad, yeah. And then we have Jane Holshelder, holder. Well, I can't talk Jane Householder and Jane was a resident there who was burned alive. That's where a gas stove caught her clothes on fire and she didn't die right away, she died like hours later. Yeah, that was sad. So she, she has suffered through all that. Like I can't imagine the pain and suffering she went through and it kind of makes me sad that she's still there. Like she, I don't think she would be at peace and still be there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't um, and still be there. Yeah, I don't, um. I had phantom pains listening to this story from patients because I burnt my hand really bad, like five years ago, no, six, seven, shit seven years ago um, up my arm a little bit and that was enough for them to consider it like I think like nine to twelve percent burn and that was fucking terrible. I was off of work for over two months. My boss would not let me come back. Um, he's like blah, blah and like I cannot imagine. I said after that happened I could not imagine being burned on my whole body like I think I would just die because, like that was so fucking painful I cannot imagine, I cannot imagine.
Speaker 1:I cannot imagine that kind of pain Like I oh my God, I'm like kudos to burn victims. Yeah, and maybe that's why she's still there, because she's attached, like residually, to that pain. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 1:I wonder if like.
Speaker 2:I wonder if he could get the answer out of her.
Speaker 1:I wonder if, like her face was like morphed and everything Like, did her face catch fire too?
Speaker 2:I don't believe so. It was just her clothes, which I mean it was in the engulfed shirt. Oh, so I mean it could have.
Speaker 1:I have no idea. Yeah, that was fucking sad hearing that story.
Speaker 2:It really is, oh God. And then there's been, like you know, stories of like suicides but nobody can confirm those. Um, I can't remember what the patients say. One of the patients attacked um like one of the superintendents. Yes, I remember Upstairs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, um, like one of the superintendents.
Speaker 2:Yes, I remember upstairs, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was that, but a lot of people, you know, and we heard it too they did somebody voices, um, we heard footsteps. We had like very strange feelings feelings I know I did when we were up in the attic, when I was in the dungeon doing the essay experiment okay, but before you get into that, um, this place is like the sister of madison.
Speaker 1:yes, and chris had quite the experience at Madison. I did not see what she seen. So when she was getting a little sad doing the essay, I was like my instinct was to jump down. I started to jump down to go get her but I was like no, she seems okay. I think she'll take the headphones off if she's not. But we'll get into that more when you talk about it. But let's tell them what we learned A new tactic, the human pendulum. Oh, that was so cool. I've never seen that done. Like. When she said that at first I was like okay, I don't know how this is going to go. That was really cool watching that with that guy.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that, like me, and Christina should try that like in a cemetery one night. Yeah, I, I thought that that was such a cool experiment to do and it was cool so when because it was only us and two other people in the overnight investigation besides the host and the photographer Right. And so when they asked if one of us wanted to be the human pendulum, remember the candle was going on and off and we said we'll count to 10. And if you want, melissa, turn on the light. And it was like immediate, and I think whatever was upstairs was very drawn to you.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know, because I think they wanted me to do the pendulum, but I think you had even better communication, you and the other guy, when you both were doing the Essies. So I think it was like meant for you to do that and then it was. You know, that was cool, that was really. That's probably like one of the best experiences we've had.
Speaker 2:Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2:So, and then a little bit about my experiment, the SC session.
Speaker 2:I was in what's called the dungeon where they used to chain up some of the patients or inmates, whatever you want to call them out, some of the patients or inmates, whatever you want to call them and so I'm sitting there and I'm, you know, repeating what I hear over the smear box that's in the headphones and I'm blindfolded. So you know, you're just in your head and it was crazy. I felt like my right side go like extremely cold, and then, like I don't know, probably like what, five minutes later I had to take off everything. I had bubble breaks in my hair and it moved, it wiped across the back of my neck and, for whatever reason I'm not easily jumped or anything, but it just they touched me. I was like, okay, I'm done, and tell them, kind of what you heard between me. So it was me doing it in the dungeon, which is still in the attic, and then there was a gentleman down at the other end doing the same thing. Yeah, and were we not like communicating or something?
Speaker 1:yeah, they were communicating completely and answering each other and, um, lisa was telling me to repeat what you were saying so that they could hear, and then she was repeating. Like he was loud enough I could hear him chris is a little more soft-spoken than he was but it was so fucking crazy. I'm like you would think they were having a conversation. There's no way, because they both had wireless headphones on, with music going like loud Right.
Speaker 2:Yep, it was definitely an interesting experience and I just remember the most like interesting part about it is I just got getting mom and mama like a lot.
Speaker 1:Well, we got a name that came up on my phone while you were saying that, that Paul and I were like thinking about naming the baby and that was Really yeah, I didn't. I thought I showed you that I can send you the screenshot on the oh, you need to yeah, and I'm like um, but I never felt bad, like I didn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't feel bad being pregnant there. I felt very protected. I didn't. I mean, if I would have felt bad I would have like left the attic right. But I wasn't even freaked out at the end of the night in the attic how they were. I was like this is kind of cool to like. Now, when they were doing the human pendulum on me, I didn't really feel if I was going forward or backwards. A lot of times I felt like I was going sideways With me. What was yes, what was no?
Speaker 2:I believe your yes was going backwards and your no was going forward. But do you remember I was videotaping you and you had given me your phone and I had put it in my pocket and I have the video to show that my phone was directed at you and then all of a sudden it gets like shoved to the left and then back to the front and your phone drops out of my pocket. Whether that was paranormal or not, I don't know. I don't want to be like oh for sure, but it was a really weird situation. Like it's scary.
Speaker 1:It made me jump when it hit the floor on my phone you hear like a wind gust flying past you. So they're gonna hear all this. Um, this is just kind of like the introduction. I wanted to get like what you felt there, uh, and then I want, I wanted to just get you to like talk about, of course, the end of the night. Um, yeah, oh, tell them about the buses. Course the end of the night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, tell them about the buses. Oh, yeah, the buses. There's two of them, and they were on the set of American Love Story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're old, they're cool-looking.
Speaker 2:They're very cool-looking, very retro, very broken down, and I loved it.
Speaker 1:It just comes with a creep vibe. Yeah, and they were small buses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the ones that I belong on. And then at the end of the night, uh, it was just me, you, um, holly, lisa and olivia, and we were all in the jail cell and we heard like footsteps of the bus. And at first we're all like, did you hear that? Do you hear that? And we're all excited.
Speaker 1:Well, hold on hold, on hold on. We've seen a shadow. We I seen a short shadow and then you guys kept seeing like a taller shadow. I'm like what the hell? But then what we were getting on our phones was basically a man, and all of a sudden it was like he was in our hallway and above us too at the same time, and that's what freaked Lisa out. But go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it happened to the point where we thought that there could possibly have been somebody that came in while we were investigating like a squatter, and so they called oh, what was his name?
Speaker 1:well, you got to kind of tell the whole story. Girlfriend lisa was scared out of her fucking mind, her eyes. I'm like, do you really think someone's in here? Well, what freaked me out was when holly was like oh my, the downstairs door is not locked. I'm like, fuck and tell them about the footsteps, like they're going to. I don't know if they're going to hear it. I think you have the better video, but like kind of like, try to get them in the moment, like what it sounded like.
Speaker 2:They were loud, very, there was no doubt. It sounded like there was somebody above us with boots on. They were making sure we heard. Yeah, and I think that's why, when they thought maybe there was somebody in the building, I was like no, because if somebody was like breaking in the building, they'd be like tiptoeing around. Yeah, and we called out too, you know, to see if anybody was there. And it was definitely an interesting night. Well, where my dream? I was a little nervous, you know, because everybody else was scared. I was like, okay, maybe, but where did? In my head I'm like the footsteps were so loud.
Speaker 1:Where did my deranged brain go? What did I go grab?
Speaker 2:Uh well, what did you grab? It wasn't a bat, but it was oh, um, oh, what the fuck, was it A globe, a snow globe?
Speaker 1:I'm like we got this. There's fucking four. There's four of us. Tell me I would not survive in a fucking horror story you would be the one that makes it out alive no, I'd make sure we all got out alive, because why? Women together are crazy. I kept saying I'm, there's four of us, we're okay. Lisa's like. You guys got to get out of here. You guys have to get out of here. She pushed us out of the emergency exit. Yeah, still great.
Speaker 2:I know, and I'm scared to heights and I'm looking down. I'm like, hey, everyone's behind me except for you. And I'm just like I have to go down. Okay, so now tell them about. My fat ass is eating an ice cream cone right now. That's nice. My fat ass is currently smoking a dupe.
Speaker 1:Well, smoke a dupe for me and your nephew or niece, because, remember, we didn't announce, we didn't announce it yet, okay, um, oh, my god, tell, tell them when we were outside, like how long we were waiting. But I do you remember how the attic lights went?
Speaker 2:yeah, so yeah, they pushed us out of the emergency room or emergency exit. We're sitting in my car, it's like four o'clock in the morning, so the event was done, but we couldn't go back in there to get our equipment, so we had to wait like almost 45 minutes while they swept the building, which the building is huge. So I get that it took a while, but it was crazy because you would only see like partial lights turning on in the attic and it, I don't know. It just seemed I don't know what's the one I'm looking for.
Speaker 1:At first we questioned we, we're like, is this staged? And then we're like, no, it's not because they woke up, adam, at four o'clock in the morning, like he adam, that's his name. Yeah, yes, it was, yeah, it was wild, and I kept saying I'm like maybe they all got slaughtered and you're like shut up no, that was an amazing investigation and oh, some of the cool like things about it I loved.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that doll with the fish head?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, I got a lot of pictures. That was awesome. That was awesome that was awesome.
Speaker 2:And then I remember there was a tampon left as an offering.
Speaker 1:Do you remember that? Yeah, there was like tampons in like the kids' rooms. I'm like, why would you offer a tampon?
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the boys' kids' room, you're right.
Speaker 1:That was kind of weird.
Speaker 2:That was the only thing I wish we would have done is we would have brought some like toys that left there.
Speaker 1:I could have left that Fisher-Prey xylophone there.
Speaker 2:No, that's a trigger object I'm talking about like a little man's boxcar or something We'll have to go back. Mm-hmm, it's a definite go back to.
Speaker 1:So what were you seeing in the attic when we were all sitting there like late at night?
Speaker 2:when we were all sitting there like late at night, I did see something at the end, you know, of the room.
Speaker 1:Yeah, by the window.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, there's a dark shadow. I was having kind of a hard time seeing it because my eyes, I was like, am I seeing something or am I not? I remember asking you guys. I'm like, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Because it was so dark.
Speaker 1:I seen something crawl real quick down the middle about halfway to us. I'm like ooh.
Speaker 2:Really I did not see that. No, yeah, I see that. I saw it lurking more by the window.
Speaker 1:Oh, so from a scale of one to ten, what would you rate that place?
Speaker 2:Eight and a half Good. For sure Maybe even a nine. Good yeah, yep, yep, yep. They called all that. I can't remember the whole story, but anyways, we were in their room and we were doing this weird last session and you were talking to olivia and it said karen. And you said no, her name's not karen. And then it's really hard to hear on my video, but because Olivia was like, but I can't be a Karen or something, and I heard this bear fox ask who's this?
Speaker 1:then yeah, that's crazy. I got really really really tired in that room, did you?
Speaker 2:I was cold in that room, did you?
Speaker 1:I was cold in that room. Yes, it was cold. I remember that I got really fucking cold and tired and my back started to hurt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, my whole body was like tense because I was so cold. Like you know, that feeling you get, oh yeah, when you're really cold and your whole body just I hate that, yeah, yeah that's what I felt in that room.
Speaker 1:So I believe, like I was just telling Jenny this the other night, because she never did any form of like psychedelics. I was like when you trip on anything, you know you have to be around good people, right, Because you're going to have a bad trip. And I believe I mean even more so now, like the last year of doing this, you know, because we've been doing it for a while now. I feel like it's a big trip and I feel like people can either trip really good together doing an investigation or it can go very sour, and I think it really depends on people like negative energy versus positive energy, and I think it really depends on people like negative energy versus positive energy. And I can tell you it was all positive that night and it really shows you that you have to be careful. Who you're investigating with you do Seriously, Because we all meshed very well together, even the guys, even the two guys too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Ghost Bros shout out to that. They were like super nice.
Speaker 1:So did you like I had such a good time, did you? Huh? Did you like this place more than Madison? No, no, okay, but it's equally up there with Madison.
Speaker 2:Madison's like a 10 and Eric Neal's a 9. Okay, fair Madison, I'm always going to have a connection with that place because it scares the shit out of me, right? Or it pisses me off, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 1:Well, she didn't poop, but I, she, she definitely cried. Those were real tears, oh yeah I still have that picture of you yeah, you know, right after Yep.
Speaker 2:So is there anything you want to add about this place? I just Because I have one more topic I want to talk about tonight.
Speaker 1:I'll just say, hey, it was a very solid investigation. I'm extremely satisfied, the people. I'm satisfied with the facility, the action, all of it Mm-hmm. So overall, yeah, I give it about an 8.5 for sure, 8.5 to 9. Yeah, absolutely, go ahead and go on with it. I'm sorry, go ahead. This is your show. Carissa explains it all. Tell us what's your next topic.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about Annabelle and what is going on.
Speaker 1:Dude. I'm like like is this fucking for real or is this like a copycat? Annabelle like is this a real deal?
Speaker 2:I don't know I think it's absolutely the real deal and I think that all these disasters and shit that's happening is because they're fucking with her. They need to leave her where she belongs. I don't know, don't be moving her.
Speaker 1:Don't be fucking with her dude. They opened it.
Speaker 2:They opened the case and that's where they fucked up. Now. Oh gosh, I just. It bothers me as a paranormal enthusiast. Do I want to see Annabelle in person? Of course I do, Behind a glass, of course, but I'm not going to go see her while she's traveling. I would oh no.
Speaker 1:I want to know well, you know what they're saying about the anawaki anawuki. However, you say that, what that it's, they're gonna make an announcement about it like the government, like it's real. All this shit's tied in dude, paranormal, ufo, alien, whatever you want. All this, it's all the fucking glitch in the matrix. I've been saying this now for a long time and I'm telling you we're we're going, oh so, to your one theory that you had months ago about that we're actually in 2017. Now the calculation where we're at now in the aquarium age, we're actually back in 2012, and in 2012, the mayan calendar said that we died our physical or, I'm sorry, our old conscious and our new conscious has kicked in. So what do you think about that? Maybe that's why Annabelle's true. I mean, this is why all these weird things are happening yeah yeah, I just, I don't know, it's weird, it's very weird.
Speaker 2:All I'm saying is thank God, she should have never been moved.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I kind of agree. Now, what else happened? They brought in an American pope. Did you see that he's American? Oh, no, no, I didn't. Yeah, people. And then, of course, we're talking shit about us virgos. We're like, oh, and he's a virgo, I'm like, oh, fuck you. Um, but that's like unheard of to have an american pope. Yeah so. And then there was all that talk about the old pope when he was dying, how he was like seeing demonic figures, and then, oh, he died by okay, new pope.
Speaker 2:And then joe biden right I think he's had the answer for quite a while.
Speaker 1:Paul does too. Paul said that the other night. I do so. Do you think joe biden had already died the other night? Mm-hmm, I do so. Do you think Joe Biden had already died?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, no, because people are like I don't mean, you can go and there is big changes, well, subtle changes, but like, if you look picture to picture, like how certain facial features have changed. So there's speculation that, like you know, there was a replica made of him.
Speaker 1:Okay, and then now all the celebrities are biohacking themselves. What do you mean? Like Meghan Trainor, right, she's not all about that base anymore? She said publicly. She said I will continue to biohack myself. Whatever magic I have to take to age me reversed, I will do. They all look fucking crazy, bro. They literally do not look like them, like this. There's a lot going on. You, you cannot tell me that's just fucking plastic surgery. That is not plastic surgery. I'm telling you, it's the new death becomes her. It's like real life, all these things. Look at all the tornadoes. We just had a bunch of tornadoes again in southeast Michigan. Oh, did you see the ship that crashed into the? I think it's the Massachusetts Bridge.
Speaker 2:Oh no, it wasn't there. Yeah, it was a ghost there. What bridge was it? Yeah, it was a ghost ship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it killed some navies, Navy SEALs. Yeah, and Annabelle was like around that Yep, I was waiting for you to say that Yep, Well, Just bad, bad juju following wherever she's going.
Speaker 2:That's why she needs to go back where she belongs. Have some priests do their magic.
Speaker 1:I feel, since they opened up the Vatican all of a sudden. Then the Pope got really sick and all this shit was happening. Now it's like we've like shifted timelines again and everything that they've kept away, they're bringing to light. The Diddy trial. Did you see what Diddy looks like? Gray Aged, I mean, oh my God, for years, and that he, like his, basically like associates, um, prs, whatever were threatening steve harvey to never say anything. Now justin bieber is finally gonna I think he's gonna go to trial and talk about what happened with him. It's just like everything is crashing. We're okay, but everything on the outside is like finally how do I say it Realistically is finally coming to light. Yeah, the pizza box, the pizza thing. I did a whole podcast on that. You know what that's about, right? Uh-uh, oh girl, see, carissa does not keep up on this podcast sometimes. You guys, you hear her.
Speaker 2:I know I slack, I slack.
Speaker 1:Okay, but.
Speaker 2:I do eventually listen to them, so so the pizza thing kind of started.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm not going to say it started, but I started to really see a lot on it with Ellen DeGeneres. So it was like over 10 years ago. I want to say it was like at the Oscars or whatever. She was like, hey, everybody, we should have a pizza party on the actual, like public announcement. So they've broke it down and the pizza party, the whole pizza thing, is actually like the pedophiles.
Speaker 1:I had heard something about that, yes, okay, I don't know much. But then now Paris Hilton just made a video, I don't know if it was today or yesterday. She had all these boxes of pizza out and she's like doing this video and she's like this is how I like my pizza. Now all the celebrities are like talking about pizza again and I'm like, oh fuck, here we go, wow, it's. You know, everybody used to talk about conspiracy people and say how crazy everyone was, but now it's all coming to light, it all makes sense and I'm glad I was on the side that could see the truth okay.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this with everything coming to light, what do you think this is going to do for the paranormal field?
Speaker 2:I think it's going to be. It's going to explode and I think it's going to become more of the norm, like people are going to want to do like seances and know that, like there are people that truly can connect with the dead and they can communicate with their relatives, and I don't know. It might be good to have that sort of closure. So I think it'll be good that people are more open. But at the same time, I know a lot of fakes are going to come. Yeah, and it's going to. I don't want it to ruin the reputation, like we already have enough fakes, and I don't want more people trying to make a quick buck.
Speaker 1:I hope Zach Beggin goes down too with all the rest of them. He's starting to Mm-hmm. Bye, bye, fake-ass motherfucker. Bye Hollywood From Michigan. Yeah, get the. Oh. Yeah, he definitely is not a humbled. Most Michiganders that get famous like Kid kid rock. Well, eminem's a little weird now, but they usually stay fucking humbled, like your midwest is like humbled people for the most part because we're all kind of the same.
Speaker 2:they're not moving to fucking la. They're still sticking around in michigan, obviously in the richie parts, but they're still in michigan yeah, so yeah, I think it's gonna be, I think it's going to be wild. Yeah, any other how?
Speaker 1:do you feel about this? I think it's going to be a wild ride and I think for us that are actually real, the little people in the spiritual world, as you call it, spiritual realm same thing as being religious, whatever. I call myself spiritual, whatever, right. Um, I think we're going to get a lot of downloads. I think we're going to get hella. Um, very, um, crazy dreams, very lucid dreaming. Um, I just bought two more tarot deck cards.
Speaker 1:I told myself almost a year ago I'm like I'm not buying any more tarot decks or any more Oracle decks. And I went. I mean it, just my body literally took me to Barnes and Noble. I don't go to Barnes and Noble a lot. I got out of five below and I was like I need to go to Barnes and Noble, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then I kept looking around cause they changed, like you know, the spiritual part and I did not want to ask anybody. I'm like my body needs to lead me where it should be. And it girl. I walked around, my pregnant fat ass. I walked around that place and walked around, and walked around. I almost gave up. I'm like, oh my God, my legs are tired, Like I want to go home.
Speaker 1:And then, boom, I found and I'm like oh, it was like one small shelf, and I'm like, huh. So I think I'm kind of like getting a little itchy. My brain doesn't tell me, it's my body, it's just like a feeling. You know, I've gotten a lot more sensitive and it has nothing to do with being pregnant. I'm more like I kind of like can feel like karma, but not bad karma like and not like, oh, hey, I want something bad to happen to you. It's more like it's kind of sad feeling where I'm like oh, this person or all that person, it's kind of like I feel I've been feeling a lot of other people's energy and I think that the spiritual realm and the energetic fields are just super high right now and I think they're going to continue to just get more and more sensitive as we go on, Because I think this they said 2025 was the year things were going to change. Yeah, so Absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's my feeling. I think both of us could be very well right.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll see on your birthday. Chris is turning 30 this Saturday, the 24th. Who's going to go with me? She's going to go with me participate at a live event. We're going to be live Jenny's live. We're going to um, oh, I cannot wait Cause she hasn't been to this museum yet. I cannot wait to show her all the Ouija boards, girl, he has like ancient Ouija boards. They're beautiful.
Speaker 2:I can't wait.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I wish I had the money. I love collecting Ouija boards so I actually like the history behind the Ouija. I've never had anything bad happen to me. People bitch at me all the time. Ouija board, spirit box the same fucking thing. People, it's the same guy.
Speaker 2:as long as you say goodbye.
Speaker 1:Same thing as spirit boxes. We always say goodbye. Thank you for communicating. Exactly I love the history, love, love the history behind Ouija and I absolutely love the history. Well, talking boards. I'm going to bring my talking board because it's glow in the dark. Jenny told me to bring that one so they can see it. But I like I just love the history behind tarot too. Like I just it's a historic part. I really turned into like a big dork. That's okay. I'm big dork, that's okay. I'm an adult too. You know what I mean. Like it's the history behind this stuff. That's like wow, there were so many intelligent people even back then. Like they already knew their shit, that, and like we're still learning all this. Yeah, these things have been around. These, these, you know, pieces of equipment that were used to communicate have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Speaker 2:Yeah so, and they were so advanced like astrology and Yep. They have like so much more insight than I feel like what we do.
Speaker 1:Right, and I'm trying to learn this slowly over the years. But, like you guys, tarot, astrology, numerology, like this shit is fucking advanced, like it's hard, it's like to master that. You almost have to like go to school for it. And let me tell you, when you learn the numerology, when you learn it all together, the risings behind, like you know the degrees, it all makes sense. So, yeah, yeah, it's um, pretty, pretty, fucking cool. I love all this. I just the the beat, the. It's more like for me.
Speaker 1:It's like how do I say this? It's like so cliche to like sit around, bring out a Ouija board or a talking board and be like let's see what happens. It's like, no, for me, what if they don't even want to talk through the boards? Like they might, that might just circulate energy, like think about 200 years ago them doing this. But I do really want to have a real stance one night. I've always wanted to do a real one, preferably. I was going to say preferably when I'm not pregnant. We should do that. I was going to say preferably when I'm not pregnant, right, don't you? We should do that. How many? You need like four for a seance, right? Or is it five?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Have you noticed something else? What I hate to say this you guys, we're not sexist, we're not like pussy power girls either, we're not like feminist, but a lot of the Well, at least for us. Like you and I, we didn't do like a lot of paranormal stuff, like events for a while. Well, we had our own shit going on too, but it's like all the women came back stronger together, like energetically, like something poked us in the asses, lit a fire in our asses, and like a lot of the dudes were like in the field, were like bye, like they all kind of like dipped out and now it's just us again. It's all of us girls. Again, it's like so witchy, I love it, theresa. Theresa's like for real. She's like we need to start a coven. I'm like, well, we need to have a place to have a coven.
Speaker 1:She's like, well, we can find a place that would be cool, though, wouldn't that be cool to have like a modern day, um, like a, yeah, like a modern day coven I would definitely dig the modern day witch, hot like high rise.
Speaker 1:I would do like the high rise waisted pants with like not like a fucking blazer coat that our moms used to wear, with like shoulder pads, but like more fitted Uh-huh, I could see you wearing like a dress, like a long black, yeah, flowy dress. You're definitely like a Stevie Nicks. I would be. I don't know what I would be. I feel like I'd be more of like the Joan Jett yeah, you would be, and then Harry Sack would be. Who would Harry Sack be? I don't know. Obviously she's blonde. Teresa's like a little short and cute and like sassy. I don't know. That would be fun. That would be cool as fuck. Dude, I want to buy an old church, so bad.
Speaker 2:Me too. So when me and Guy were starting to look for homes, there was an old church for sale, but like the inside I mean it would have been so much work.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I know, I remember you telling me.
Speaker 2:I could not Like. Every time I get on Zillow I look to make sure the house was not, or the church was not, for sale yet, and the house just, or the church'm now just kept going down and down, and down. I haven't checked in a long time so I have no idea if it's for sale, but I really wanted it.
Speaker 1:well, what turned me on about this? This was years ago, because you know I love my food network and my h3 tv. Um, actually, this was before the pandemic, when the housing market was still pretty good. A lot of the builders you know on tv were buying old churches and they kept them historic. So they had to keep, like, the historical signs and stuff in the bell, but they were turning them into really cute little homes and I was like that would be so dope.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't want it to be my house, but I would want it to be, like you know, our base camp, coven, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, but I would. I would want like a super small one, like it's 600 square foot, like small, yeah, you know, just with like a, like a bathroom in there and, like you know, just small and easy to upkeep. But that would be, oh my God, that would be so cool. We would have to figure out what we would name it. Yeah, I would love to make it like a metaphysical church. Yeah, so I don't know, we got big plans on a bare budget. Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2:But one of us is going to hit the a bare budget. Yeah, we do, but one of us is going to hit the lottery one day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I'll be listening to you in the afterlife telling me the same thing. I'll say well, girl, we never hit the lotto. So here we are, still slaving. You're wrong, I'm right, still working. You know they're going to make us work.
Speaker 2:You probably get to work yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't think this mouth is going to make money, but I mean, I sure can talk, I can do a lot of talking, but oh, I wanted to say how was your first Mother's Day?
Speaker 1:You know it was weird. I slept. I had to keep my feet up because you know, we were at the haunt the night before. My feet were so swollen. I was laughing. I took videos of them. I just made some brunch and I slept and I don't know. It didn't really. I will say this it was like the first Mother's Day. It wasn't super sad. Obviously, it was like my mom being gone. It's always rough.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It felt. I felt very relaxed. Good, I'm glad, how, oh so Carissa got the baby the cutest onesie it says shh watching horror movies with my mom and she made me homemade candles. I did A Hocus Pocus one and a spirit guide candle, yep, and then that was so cute, thank you. So how was your mother's day when you went home with, oh, you had to work. You idiot, why did you work on mother's day?
Speaker 2:I know well, because it was sunday I had to, but I had a great mom's day. So like I got home and there were cousins on the table for me, I got my first fly lounge Michael Myers bag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know those are so cute. I just wish they had more spooky ones.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I love it. And then I have a necklace with Jackson's first stone, and then I had two candles from Jackson that he made.
Speaker 1:One that said Happy day, mama oh.
Speaker 2:I know I remember I'm gonna keep that forever, um, with some cards and candy and like, um, yeah, it was great. And then I went to my cousin's house where my husband and my cousin's husband made us steak dinners. And then I came home and I crashed out. I was done.
Speaker 1:Did you have a baked potato with your steak? No, no, you had french fries. I know.
Speaker 2:I'm not about to eat baked potato.
Speaker 1:Thanks, but don't thanks oh girl Ew, you know, I haven't had steak in a while. That sounds good.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, the Big 30.
Speaker 1:Dirty 30. Over the hill.
Speaker 2:No 40.
Speaker 1:40 used to be over the hill girl, but you know what we're gonna say when you really think about it.
Speaker 2:50 is not over the hill, it's more like 45.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, you don't even look. 40. You look great, you have fun. You know, michael Myers suits Carissa, because if Jackson wasn't so cute, that's all I'm gonna say. She is gonna be the mom, the Michael Myers mom. My son didn't do shit.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's Jason.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, that's Jason. That's from the lake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, Michael Myers is my boy.
Speaker 1:Michael Myers? Oh yeah, because she likes attention from guys, so she likes when he chases her with a knife. He doesn't even really chase you attention from Guy, so she likes when he chases her with a knife and then, and then she falls over like the sexy girls in the movies with the big boobs and they're like, oh, and they have to get back up, don't stab me, don't kill me, guy. Should we tell our audience?
Speaker 2:There's a sign that says like safety one way and danger the other, you go towards the danger oh my god, should we tell them?
Speaker 1:the text that I sent back to your husband tonight was a little surprising. No, no, oh my god, she's mad at me, I'm so bad. Yeah, I'm definitely the friend. That's like you have to warn everybody about and you have to like, if I have to be good, you have to tell me like weeks in advance. You have to be good to the. You know, if you're going to whatever great grandma's over someone's over, you have to just yeah, I'm that friend. Unfortunately no filter. Yeah, she hates it but she loves it. She keeps coming back for more. So I mean, I guess she's just as fucking crazy as me. I'm glad it's her punishment.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall for that conversation?
Speaker 1:You know he's probably going to be like. You know I agree with Mel, that should happen. I would be the best sex therapist. I'd be like just do sex, suck dick, do this, do that. People would leave and they would stay married right.
Speaker 2:I am very happy with my sex life. My husband, Really.
Speaker 1:So you guys, we don't even like Guy's, never like he's working all the time. I'm starting to think maybe she made him up and then maybe I went off her imagination. And you know I keep saying I love that Guy guy. But like, does that guy guy even exist? I don't know. She said poor guy guy, she sends him to work all the time.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Well, what a him, what a nice guy. He's letting her go out Saturday night and he's gonna watch the kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's amazing.
Speaker 1:He's amazing. Yep, you better be getting brownie points when he listens to this episode. Don't worry, we'll talk shit about the husbands when we hang up, like you know, on here, like everyone else does. No, I, you know what, for once, I mean god, paul and I've been married since, well, dinosaur time. Um, I'm telling you, paul has been so great. I did not think I mean, because there's times I just have like the worst attitude and I'm like he's probably so been so great. I did not think I mean, because there's times I just have like the worst attitude and I'm like he's probably so over me being pregnant. He's probably like Jesus, fucking Christ. But he's like you're doing everything right and this and that, and I'm like no, I'm not Like. I don't like when people tell you that like you look beautiful when you're pregnant, like I used to always tell everybody that they're beautiful, like I think pregnancy is beautiful on women, but when it's you, you don't feel like you're just like ugh, I look drab or I look. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I like towards the end of my pregnancy I was like all belly. I loved it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like seeing the belly more now and I like when I actually like do my hair and everything, I feel like a lot better. But like the first trimester, like the first couple months, like I did not feel beautiful last few months of my pregnancy.
Speaker 2:I absolutely loved it. See you were. You were like my body looked. Not necessarily the pain and suffering of the last trimester.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was gonna say, you and Kobe, my sister-in-law, you guys were sickly like, threw up a lot and I didn't. Well, I bragged about not throwing up and then tonight, you know, I had my. This kid was like hold my beer, but um, you know what's that?
Speaker 1:Do I feel, oh, from having an exorcism tonight. Yeah, I feel my stomach is still really weird, but I did eat ice, a vomiting. Yeah, I feel my stomach is still really weird, but I did eat ice cream cones. I feel a little bit better. Good, and you know me, I don't really eat ice cream. But I just had a banana when you were talking I was chowing away.
Speaker 1:I hope the audience isn't here. It was like a banana like cone dipped cone with like peanuts on top. It was like a banana like cone dipped cone with like peanuts on top. It was so good, nice. But um, I do want to put this out here Like I'm sure a lot of people talk shit about women being pregnant and like doing like the whole paranormal thing I felt completely protected. I did. I mean, I'm sure it helped being with Carissa because she is good at grounding us. Like she, I can never remember the white prayer because I'm stupid and I even before being pregnant I had the brain of a squirrel, but like she always grounds us, but I felt completely fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, certainly not.
Speaker 1:I felt fine about it. You know, like I mean, do you feel okay? Like, is it weird for me to like go on adventures like that? I don't think so. Okay, good, thank God you're like a supportive friend and you're not like, um, I don't think you should be doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it wasn't like we went somewhere where we knew there was like an exorcism or demonic haunting or you know, I probably wouldn't have felt comfortable with that until you were done being pregnant Really. But yeah, just I don't know, it doesn't hurt to be sick.
Speaker 1:Why do you think the baby's going to come out and be like rah and I would do it back. I'd be like, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:No, but I don't want anything negative to attach itself to you and I want you to have the best pregnancy, aren't you sweet?
Speaker 1:sometimes, honestly, um, I was surprised because I was like not cool about um at first. I'm like, oh, we gotta fucking walk up that hill to go to that cemetery hell. No, but I actually felt so good moving around. That's probably like the best I have felt towards like this third trimester. Like I felt really good like physically walking around. Good, um, yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 2:I had a lot of fun yeah, I totally recommend, if you guys get the chance, go to Lancaster, ohio and visit Fairfield County Infirmary or Infirmary, I can't ever pronounce it- I can't say it either.
Speaker 1:It's a stupid word to say. It's a hard word. It's stupid. It's difficult, it's stupid. Well, I am going to work on playing them evidence, okay, so I think that's a wrap, my dear yes, and then we will have more. We'll have more to talk about after Saturday.
Speaker 2:Yes, yep, absolutely, yep, absolutely. I can't wait.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I thought you and Guy went there. You guys were going to go there, but you guys haven't went there yet.
Speaker 2:Um, no, I don't remember. I'll know. When I get there I'll be like, yes, me and Guy were here, but obviously we didn't do a live, or you know, at night.
Speaker 1:So Okay, well, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:Thank you for picking a fun place. That was your birthday and Mother's Day gift and now you're going to get another birthday gift Saturday. Oh, stop it, it's going to be a big dick in the box.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that song?
Speaker 1:It's literally where I was going. Thank you, girl. I got a dick in a box. A dick in a box, and then, of course, we're going to have to fucking play the whole time there. Her, what's your song? Go ahead, tell them.
Speaker 2:It's Big Kids on a Block. Happy Birthday.
Speaker 1:And it was made just for you, right.
Speaker 2:It really was Donnie and. Jordan woke up for me.
Speaker 1:You're lucky. I love you, bitch.
Speaker 2:No, because you're gonna be the one holding your fucking phone chatting to me singing along Yep, yep, and make this like a yearly thing.
Speaker 1:She has a fucking new kids on the block. Pillow case. That I sleep with yes, absolutely, oh Jesus, I can't with you, girl, You're such a Gemini.
Speaker 2:Hey, if you guys have any stories, comments, suggestions, like, don't forget to email us. It would be great to hear from you guys. Our email is ghostsisters2124 at gmailcom. Yep, and then you can listen to us on pretty much any streaming service. We've got Strange, strange Beyond Insane, and thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and if you guys type in Strange, Strange, Beyond, Insane on like TikTok or X or any of that, like most of the platforms, Carissa will come up too, so you'll be able to go to her. You know her profiles or her um well, they don't call them profiles anymore, Accounts, Her account, oh wow. But hey, you guys, thanks for tuning in and we will be talking soon. Thank you, Carissa, for coming on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you for having me, and have a good night.
