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Strange Deranged Beyond Insane
Nostalgic Nights: VHS Picks, 90s Icons, and Paranormal Tales with Michael
Remember the thrill of Friday nights spent browsing the aisles of Blockbuster or Family Video? Michael and I sure do! We kick off our episode sharing personal stories of those memorable moments, cherishing the simple joy of picking out the perfect VHS for weekend sleepovers. Our conversation takes you on a nostalgic journey through the vibrant world of the 90s and early 2000s, from the excitement of trips to Kids R Us and Children's Palace to the beloved Book It program at Pizza Hut. We also reminisce about the quirky collectibles from Burger King and McDonald's that we adored. Plus, we delve into our passion for paranormal investigations, emphasizing the significance of honoring historical stories.
What happened to those once-bustling arcades and malls we loved so much? We reflect on the sad demolition of Pampa Lanes, only to brighten up with the exciting news about the Sparks Pinball Museum's revival at Oakland Mall's historic American Fun Center location. We chat about how the mall's new owner is breathing fresh life into the space, creating a cultural hub with attractions like Gashapon stores that appeal to the local Asian community. We also celebrate the timeless charm of 80s and 90s music, giving a shout-out to artists like Taylor Swift and Chapel Roan who are bringing those vibes back.
As we embark on a trip down memory lane, we discuss the impact of iconic 90s movies like "Titanic," "The Lion King," and "Pulp Fiction" and share personal anecdotes about these films. We also touch on the beloved animatronic characters at Chuck E. Cheese and the recent controversies surrounding them. Our chat is peppered with reflections on childhood treats, quirky hairstyles, and milestones that shaped our early years. To wrap up, we're thrilled to announce a nostalgic Halloween event at Crocker House, transforming the historic site into a spooky, candlelit venue perfect for a family-friendly evening. Join us for a heartwarming and entertaining journey back to the charm of the 90s!
Good evening everyone. It's your host, melissa, at Strange, strange Beyond Insane, and tonight I have Michael here. Michael, go ahead and get in on this, hey hello everybody, how's it going?
Speaker 1:Alright, so we, um, after I cut his hair and Kevin's hair, um, Kevin was a party pooper and went home and Michael and I went out to eat at the bar Al and Eddie's. Al and Eddie's and I have not been there in probably I don't know seven or eight years, Anyways. So we got pizza, we were talking, and then, on the way back, we were talking about Dollar General.
Speaker 2:Yep, we just passed by it on the corner.
Speaker 1:And then we were talking about like Nostalgic 90s, how that used to be a family video at one time. Yep. So family video, so like, let's see Universal would be like blockbuster, right, Mm-hmm. So the video stores, my God, before Netflix and all the streaming.
Speaker 2:You could go in there and get a little box of candy with your parents and get your video for a couple videos for the weekend and have your friends over.
Speaker 1:Yep, sleepovers. What else do you remember from the 90s?
Speaker 2:So, that was like a big part. You know, blockbuster was obviously the main umbrella of places to go, but we had our local ones like Family. Video came later but there was also Mammoth Video. Remember Mammoth?
Speaker 1:Video. Oh yeah, there was one on.
Speaker 2:Gratiot Yep. There was also one, I think, on 13 and utica in that area, um, but we never really went to that one. Mostly were family video or blockbuster video, family. But yeah, you go there and you know, get your videos. And they had to remember the new section so they would have all like the repeats of all the new movies. You know you'd they have like 50 copies and you have to flip it over to see if there was one behind it.
Speaker 1:If you rented the new ones, you got like one or two free dollar movies. Yep.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, and then you had to have it. Remember, those had a reduced amount of time that you could have it yes, so you had to bring it back.
Speaker 1:I always had late fees.
Speaker 2:Yep. So remember they would like check you and you had to go past the thing to make sure you didn't steal anything. They would give you your movie afterwards. Remember that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh, when you were checking out, Checking out yeah, they would scan you, you would walk through the thing and then they would hand you the movie after. Let's see. Another nostalgic thing would be oh, because we were talking about Kids R Us, yep, children's Palace. Oh, because we were talking about um, kids are us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, children's palace yeah, so the uh, toys are us was like the main one everybody went to, but my family never really went there because much because it seemed like it was more expensive we were. We used to go to places you were mentioned, uh, children's palace. It was like a, a chain as well. It seems like a lot of them now are staples, like the one by our house now is a staples, but you can tell it's still a children's palace because it has the arches in the front, like because it used to be a castle in the front yeah, it was purple it was white, white and red white and red and it had, like the little towers on top.
Speaker 2:Well now, if you go to staples now that used to, you can still see the arches where, like the little gates were for the castle.
Speaker 1:Really Mm-hmm. What's the old stables?
Speaker 2:At least the one on 13 Mile and Gratiot oh, the stables. There used to be a children's palace.
Speaker 1:Wow, and then we got talking about like Ghostbusters, and then it came into like the paranormal thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we decided that there'd be a good thing though.
Speaker 1:But before we go into there, though, like in the 90s even I'd say mostly 90s, but early 2000s too, I guess Like the collectibles at, like Burger King, mcdonald's, all the Disney stuff Ghostbusters, I think, was one.
Speaker 2:Yep, at Burger King it was the kids club. Remember that, yeah, that was like their little like. Oh, I got a shaker. Yeah, there was like their little like. Remember it was like a kid in a wheelchair. Remember it was like this little group of like kids and that was like their mascots for the kids meals.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I remember that I remember the Pizza Hut kids meals. I don't know if I remember that I remember the Pizza Hut kids thing, like the books. Anyways, oh my goodness, I'm like I ate way too much.
Speaker 2:It was called Book. It Remember Book.
Speaker 1:It, book it.
Speaker 2:If you'd read so many books, you would get a free pizza, personal pan pizza.
Speaker 1:Yes, pan, pizza's the best. Michael, speaking of pizza, you let me eat way too much tonight. Yeah it was good, though, oh my God, that was the best pizza ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had cheese, bread and pizza. It was very good.
Speaker 1:So when you're watching all of us out there ghost hunting and Michael does come out with us and I don't like calling it ghost hunting, to me it's more paranormal investigating and paranormal research and it's a lot of history too, you're.
Speaker 2:You're learning a lot of history about the people and the places that you're at. That's the.
Speaker 1:I think that's the most interesting part of the ghost. That's the best part, I think you know but, do you picture us as like ghostbusters?
Speaker 2:no, I, I feel like you're kind of like honoring the dead, yeah, yeah, and you're learning their story and you're giving them a platform to actually speak if they would like, so they don't have to speak if they don't want to, but you're also telling their story. You know they're not forgotten.
Speaker 1:Right Now, you are helping host the event at the Cracker House again this year, right, mm-hmm? You are helping host the event at the Cracker House again this year, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're doing another Halloween event and they would like to do another event with you guys the day after. Yes, they want to host a totally paranormal event. So we just talked with the director tonight and he kind of gave me wind of what we're going to do. So I'm going to try to talk to him on Monday. Talk to him on Monday about it, about the specifics of what they're going to do. So I'm going to try to talk to them on Monday.
Speaker 1:Talk to them on Monday about it, about the specifics of what they need from us. And speaking of nostalgia, even too, why don't you tell them about your new journey into Were you into pinballs when you were in the 90s?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, but you're a new place. I started out with pinball when I was a kid. It's called Pampa Lanes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:Pampa Lanes. So it's actually going to be demolished. It's going to be a Sheetz gas station. I just found out yesterday they're going to tear it down. But that was originally where I started to play pinball. They used to have a pinball called Funhouse there and I got really obsessed with it as a kid and I I got really obsessed with it as a kid and I always wanted one, and so that's where at that point, a lot of arcades were kind of like. You know, pinball was kind of losing favor a little bit in some ways. I mean, there was more interest because with the Addams Family pinball that was like a big dramatic change as well, but still it was still kind of dying to the video games. So where was I going with this story?
Speaker 1:he started off at pampas, pampas lanes. That's where my love of pinball started, so but now coming into this, being um the owner of sparks, yep so I run sparks pinball museum.
Speaker 2:We do classic video arcade games and pinball machines from the 80s and 90s. Sorry, I gotta get closer to this microphone there you go you got it.
Speaker 2:So, um, but we're. We've been at premier lanes for 10 years and we're going to continue to be there, but we're also expanding to oakland mall, so we're expanding into the spot that used to be the american fun center. It is on the second floor by JCPenney's and the new owner of the mall. He's, I believe, 34 years old and he owns the mall and a lot of other properties and he's trying to make the mall more lively again and make it more alternative.
Speaker 2:Actually, there's a very high Asian population that lives around that mall Asian population. Yeah, so he's trying to do a lot of different types of.
Speaker 1:Oh, like K-pop stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, like Gashapon is a new store there. It's a lot of these coin-operated gumball machines essentially what they are but they have little toys inside of them. It's the largest Gashapon store in North America, so we're going to take over the old American Fun Center. It used to be an arcade there.
Speaker 1:It's very nostalgic looking.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's got the original paint on the walls, the original carpet. We're very lucky because they have the original. I mean they have the plug, it's all wired for an arcade so there doesn't have to be many alterations that we have to do to convert it to our it's in really good shape too.
Speaker 1:It looks like it is.
Speaker 2:There's two bathrooms in there, there's an office, there's an actual parts room and there's actually a place where we can actually repair stuff. So that's going to be great for us moving forward, because Premier Lane is a great place, we love it there, we're going stuff. So that's going to be great for us, uh, moving forward, because that premier lanes it's a great place, we love it there. We're going to continue to be there. Just there wasn't no space to do that, so now we're going to have a central hub where we can do our repairs nice.
Speaker 1:now I I was telling someone the other day, um, I forget who it was, but you guys know, if you guys have been on tiktok or any kind of social media, you know we have jumped timelines very quickly again and if you realize how fast 2024 has went by.
Speaker 2:I can't even feel like we even started summer yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like totally fucked right. It's like ass backwards this year. So I have this feeling I forget Was I telling you, I don't know who I told, but I literally feel like we're going to go back to the 90s. It's like edging there we are technically I do feel that Like I mean, dude, if we had 90s like economy, we'd all be so rich, right?
Speaker 2:now.
Speaker 1:We would be like, considered like high class, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It was a time I mean you really think about it the 90s were kind of like a blur of no, nothing really unrest happening. I mean there was some wars going on but well, the desert storm right. Yeah, it wasn't that big of a no, but it I mean you think about it the end of the 90s. What happened to the end of the 90s? It was 2001, and that's when the 9-11 happened a lot of things changed after that.
Speaker 2:That's the year I graduated 9-11 I was in eighth grade I was, uh, actually my first year of college, because I was already graduated at that point, but it was september. But, um, wow, a lot of things changed then. I think it's we're still kind of in that point and you know, uh, the world really hasn't gone back to that. But the 90s were like a almost like a cloud of just.
Speaker 1:Happy. Yeah, it was like a mesh of like 80s and 90s. Not that I lived I wasn't born until 88, but like the music, inspiration was still kind of in the 80s.
Speaker 2:Yep, but even like Taylor Swift today, a lot of it. She's really big right now, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1:But even like Taylor Swift today a lot of it. She's really big right now, but it's a lot of it. Taylor, excuse you, what about the 80s icon right now that we both love and that you've taught me the words?
Speaker 2:Oh, I never know her name Chapel Roan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love her music, oh my God, chapel Roan is a fucking movement. She is so 80s and she's only like 26?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she kind of dresses in drag. Did you see that?
Speaker 1:Yes, that's my favorite part. Yeah, like it's funny and she always says Hi, my name is Chapel Roan. It's not Chappelle Roan, Because I thought her name was Chappelle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I mean one of the things that she's gotten a lot bigger is a lot of people have sampled her for this political stuff that's going on right now. Yeah, they say a lot about her music, but I like her music a lot.
Speaker 1:I love her. I think she is the movement. I think she's the best thing since Lady Gaga, at least recently.
Speaker 2:She's really good.
Speaker 1:Like I thought Lady Gaga was kind of of her time, like the new Madonna. But I would say this chapel, did you see La La Puza? How do you say that? La La Puza? La La La Pu? I've heard of it. Yeah, la Puza. Whatever it's in Cali, right, the big ass concert thing that they have oh, la, la, la Puza yeah, la La La Puza.
Speaker 2:I can't sing it.
Speaker 1:I'm not singing it right either, right now but she had like thousands and thousands of people chanting to her song. It like went out past. That's awesome, like it was like holy shit. But yeah, I honestly I think, and then you have not seen, um uh, it's sad though, like I mean, I know the 90s are really coming back, but we're not.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of the 90s stuff that we're not really playing homage to. Like we went this past year to see Madonna, you know, like you think that would be really big People were just shitty to her, Just like I mean, that's a 90s icon. Malls Malls haven't come back yet either no, no, it's like certain things. You think like gosh. People would be like you know, like wow, this is great, like this childhood. No, they still don't relate to it. It's weird in a way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Madonna's kind of like fucking really weird.
Speaker 2:She does a lot of stupid shit.
Speaker 1:Then the embalming of her face. I mean that freaked people out, she looks like something that comes out of the bed at night, underneath the bed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a good concert, though I'm telling you that we had a good time.
Speaker 1:I mean, I love Madonna's music.
Speaker 2:Me. I mean I love Madonna's music, me too. I like her 90s, I like her old 80s stuff, I like the 2000s stuff. We've lost a lot of 90s icons. We lost Prince.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Prince, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston. Oh yeah, oh God, there's so many.
Speaker 2:And a lot of people have died, the last, oh, this last year.
Speaker 1:But as we get older, they get older too. We forget, you know, but I think, somehow, some way, I'm holding out like the song, you know, no pun intended, I'm holding out for a hero that we were going to go back to the 90s. Um, oh my god, the frankenstein movie that I love. Lisa Frankenstein, oh, okay, lisa Frankenstein has like 80s and 90s, like vibes to it, and as soon as I seen that movie, I literally watched it three times in a row, like Paul was like are you really watching this again? Because it made me so fucking happy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Because 80s and 90s is like just a happy time. Oh yeah, the economy. Oh yeah, because 80s and 90s is like just a happy time. Oh yeah, the economy was good. Our parents were good with like they had. Like we're all middle class, like now we're all poor, like we're peasants, you know yeah, and it's interesting.
Speaker 2:It's like going back to the 80s, if you ever want to see a movie. I mean I, I was born in 82, so I grew up with the 80s, but I still don't relate 100 to it, right, because you were so little, yeah, but a movie if you want to see what it was like to be in the 80s, but I still don't relate 100% to it more than the 90s.
Speaker 2:Right, because you were so little. Yeah, but a movie if you want to see what it was like to be in the 80s and just see what a mall was like and stores Salem.
Speaker 1:I went to Salem and that was an 80s mall.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:The mall in Salem is awesome.
Speaker 2:If you want to see Nostalgic, if you want to see a movie that shows you what it was like to be in the 80s and actually being filmed in the 80s is you have to watch the movie Fast Times at Richmont High If you've never seen that.
Speaker 1:Did I see that before?
Speaker 2:It's kind of like some weird parts of the movie. There's some kind of like. It's a very odd movie but it was filmed partially in a mall and it just shows many parts of like growing up in the 90s. I would just hit like if you're gonna search, just like google the kit images, you'll see. It's a just a very nostalgic movie, like you can see, like you're, like they're inside the. It's the girl that's also in gremlins.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, if you think of her name, schaefer and Sons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they work at like a pizza place and stuff.
Speaker 1:I think I've seen this.
Speaker 2:It's a very good movie but I just to me like actually seeing what the 80s like. It's cool to actually see like the things actually filmed in that time.
Speaker 1:So do you think, are we?
Speaker 2:going to go back to the 80s or are we going back to the 90s 90s, I would feel? I feel the 80s have kind of already passed, but are we going to have the same economy? I hope so. I mean, I don't know if we can ever go back to you know, I mean, I don't know, I feel like it is.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's going back, though I feel like these younger, like influencers, you know, artists, whatever, like in their mid-20s, early 20s, like it's like they're like they were born to like, to like re-reflect the 90s again Because they're all so 90s, like without even trying. Yeah, that's why I think we might go back to the 90s. I don't know, maybe it's wishful thinking. Whatever, I hope it happens before I die.
Speaker 2:Well, I I mean we could all go back to the 90s and some things. Aspects will I mean when?
Speaker 1:history repeats itself.
Speaker 2:It does, but it's also people will bring aspects of it back. I mean, like even just open the arcade. We're gonna be opening arcade.
Speaker 1:That was yeah like that happy family, like that vibe yeah, that's what I mean like it's all like like doom and gloom. Now, you know, since the pandemic it just has not been the same.
Speaker 2:Well, it's kind of like an interesting thing about the 90s. I mean, I don't know if you guys remember Chuck E Cheese. Yes, chuck E Cheese opened in 78, I believe. And you also had one of the original Chuck E Cheese. I have some like the sign that's from there. I collect weird stuff.
Speaker 1:You collect awesome things.
Speaker 2:So I have like the original signs that used to be in Chuck E Cheese, that were in the windows. But there's like just one thing, like totally there is a weird. I mean not weird, I'm part of this group, but there's a fan group of Chuck E.
Speaker 1:Cheese Because I'm part of this group.
Speaker 2:It's like a fan club of people that like the animatronics. So an interesting story about Chuck E Cheese is you know, they've been around for 40 years now and recently started pulling all the robots out of their stores, so it's just going to be like an arcade and pizza. Well, the original reason do you know the original reason why the robots are there? What do you think?
Speaker 1:they're there for Entertainment, so for who? The kids, mm-mm.
Speaker 2:The robots were originally intended to keep the parents occupied while their kids were spending money in the arcade. And the robots were there while the parents were sitting in the dining room, while the parents are sitting in the in the dining room, and if you actually go and actually you can look on the youtube. You can actually watch some of the original chuck e cheese characters. It's the same characters but they're they're um, they were, at least they were. Back then. They were attached on the wall. They were called um gosh uh portraits. They were called portraits, so they were like little picture frames on the wall and they would come out and they would talk. If you actually watch what they're saying, it is so inappropriate.
Speaker 1:Why? What are they saying? Like titties?
Speaker 2:They were like about innuendos and it was all meant for the adults. And then Chuck E Cheese would come out smoking and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:That's awesome See.
Speaker 2:Chuck E Cheese was actually an asshole, like back then Was he yeah. He was very mean to everybody else, like all the different little characters.
Speaker 1:but Okay, so is that what Five Nights at Freddy's is based?
Speaker 2:on. It's based off that, yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I love that movie. By the way, that was so much fun. I watched it with my nephews. My niece started watching it, then she got scared. They're making a new one.
Speaker 2:They are.
Speaker 1:Yes, did you watch that movie?
Speaker 2:I haven't done it yet. I mean, sometimes, when a movie checks so much of my boxes, I'm afraid to watch it. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1:You know that, because it's going to ruin it for you. Yeah, it's a hype.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh, I want it because I love the animatronic stuff, and um, but uh, oh, what I was trying to say is so, going back to like the 90s, the chucky cheese places. They announced a couple years ago that they're pulling all the robots out well, what are they going to do with? Them, so they're destroying them. So actually, what they do is they just the employees take the masks off of the characters. They have to show that they destroy them or they'll be sued.
Speaker 1:Why would they be sued?
Speaker 2:Because they don't want those characters to be used in a competing place. So they own the Chuck E Cheese characters, the face and the likeness of it, so they don't want anybody else to use it.
Speaker 1:Nobody can ever have that again. This is too much like the movie Five Nights at Freddy's so they have to destroy them.
Speaker 2:They have to take pictures of them, like the faces being ripped off and smashing the robots. So the interesting thing is, though, chuck E Cheese realized, like shit, like people are pissed that we're taking these robots out, so they actually kept in certain areas. They made these nostalgic Chuck E Cheeses that actually still have the robots for like, because they know that their customer base wanted it back, so they actually are keeping them now.
Speaker 1:So are they going to reopen Chuck E Cheese's?
Speaker 2:Chuck E Cheese's is still open.
Speaker 1:Not a lot though.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's still a lot around.
Speaker 1:Is there really?
Speaker 2:But they just, they put these little dance floors for the kids.
Speaker 1:I remember the Chuck E Cheese's when I was little. They like played instruments.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was Jasper T Giles, chuck E Cheese, helen Henney and Pasquale, which was the what do you call them Politely incorrect Italian chef. There was another one. Oh, there was Mr Munch. He was like a purple character that he ate pizza a lot.
Speaker 1:That's like me. I'm Mr Munch. Yeah, you are. Let's see the best 90s movies. Let's pull it up. I'll look at it right in my mind. Let's look at that. Oh, titanic, I didn't even think, wait, that was in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was, I guess, 98.
Speaker 1:The Lion King Pulp Fiction. Hell yeah, I just recently watched.
Speaker 2:well, I've never finished Pulp Fiction. I just recently started it. What, yeah it was? It's crazy. I get the part where they're at the base and I was like, oh, this is getting weird.
Speaker 1:It makes me want to do drugs, yeah, but I have to watch that again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like Magnolia, I've seen the Magnolia movie. That was an interesting movie.
Speaker 1:Is that the one with Dolly Parton?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're thinking of.
Speaker 1:Lengel or.
Speaker 2:Oh, goodfellas Steel, Magnolias you're thinking of.
Speaker 1:Steel, oh, mangolias, yeah. The Silence of the Lambs, Holy shit 1991. I didn't even think.
Speaker 2:Remember Terminator 2? That was a big movie. I remember that came out. I have actually the pinball machine and the video arcade game that was made for that movie. Oh, fargo, eat and drink. I don't remember any of these movies Dead.
Speaker 1:Man Walking.
Speaker 2:The Player, remember? Oh, you know what a really good movie is, what is? It is called leap of faith. You ever seen that one? What's that about? It's got steve martin in it and he plays, uh, televangelist, which means it's like he's like a pastor and he messes with people, with money, like he. Like he comes to town. It's almost like a circus and yet they put a big tent up and they do like these revivals and they learn how to like, steal money from people and, like as in, like you know, make them feel that there was a miracle going on oh, it's a very good we should do that I've always wanted to do funeral crashing oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I kind of do too, but I don't want to admit that I mean, I would admit it because I'm fucked up, but the Nightmare Before Christmas 1993.
Speaker 2:I remember I actually saw that when it was brand new.
Speaker 1:That doesn't even feel like it's that old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw that in the theater and I remember when the beginning part, when you're actually going over the hills, I felt like as a kid that I was like moving, like it was 3D, it was so new at the time Because it was so new at the time. Yeah, we never see anything like that because it's all stop action movies.
Speaker 1:Oh, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Paul loves that movie. That's 1998. If you're wondering what kind of incense this is, Michael, this is actually a sage stick.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, yeah, cleansing.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, tell them what's your favorite 90s movies.
Speaker 2:Well, I always liked Fried Green Tomatoes, but that's just me. I love that movie because it's pretty well done. I feel like, um, you know what's another really good movie is? It's kind of fucked up. I'm sorry if I'm supposed to swear on this podcast oh yeah, no, we do like I paid for that okay, um, which is it's a really good movie is gosh? What is it called a perfect world?
Speaker 1:what is that about?
Speaker 2:that's a. It's a movie. It's got kevin. Oh, I can't think of the. That's a. It's a movie. It's got Kevin. Oh, I can't think of the guy's name, but it's about this Kevin Bacon. Oh, let's see, I'm going to look it up. Can you type it in real quick? Yeah, it's a, he's a very good.
Speaker 1:Did you ever have a Tamagotchi?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, my job is probably a little too old for it. Okay, it's a 1993 film and it's got kevin costner in it oh he's so hot and clint eastwood, so it's a really hot for older guys so kevin costner is a felon and clint eastwood is the uh police and he ends up like abducting this little boy and and then he's up taking the car. But he's like, he's like a little kid, he's in like a Halloween costume, he's a little Casper the ghost costume oh, I gotta watch this is that the one part of the movie that's really fucked up, though, is he takes a call the boy
Speaker 2:no, oh, he goes to like this house and, um, it's like a black family and they're in the house and they're like, they're like staking it out and then they play this like song it's, and it's almost like it's like a, like a what would you call it. Oboe is playing and it's like this, really like, and he's playing this record. My friend Sarah and I both have seen this song. When we ever hear that song, it just brings back this memory and anybody that's seen this movie. Do you ever hear this song?
Speaker 1:Well, that's what nostalgia is.
Speaker 2:Can you play it? Can I play it in here and it'll be okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Oh you know what?
Speaker 1:Let me do it on my phone actually, because we have that going.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, okay.
Speaker 1:So Perfect World. Okay, I can probably look it up on Spotify. Well, no.
Speaker 2:I'll just look it up on YouTube. Is that okay? Yeah, go ahead. I can probably find it.
Speaker 1:You can talk real quick, but While you're doing that, I'm going to look up top foods of the 90s.
Speaker 2:Mmm, okay, that sounds. Sounds good, but it's a song like. So if anybody is listening to this and has seen this movie, they'll know this song exactly. Come on.
Speaker 1:Did you know I want a podcast for a living, you do? Yeah, I could just talk all day and all night. I mean, there's just so much to fucking talk about. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking your YouTube or your. Do you have the Wi-Fi here?
Speaker 1:Uh yeah.
Speaker 2:You want to type it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the most popular foods in 1990s were chicken fajitas, pastry pockets, cobb salad, a Cobb salad, pizza pockets, jalapeno poppers, dunkable funfetti Cookies oh yeah, my cousin Sarah loved those. It was like a graham cracker cookie.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And it had the. You don't remember that.
Speaker 2:Uh-uh, what is it? Oh, the Dunkables. Yeah with the. Dunkaroos or whatever that was with the it was with the kangaroo right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Sloppy Joe's Stuffed Crust Pizza. Oh shit, I forgot, it's not at camp. What was your favorite food to eat when you were a kid?
Speaker 2:I liked Fruit by the Foot. Yes.
Speaker 1:There you go, you're in now.
Speaker 2:Okay, so anyways, going back to that song, if I can get it to work, oh, my God remember. Joltz. I think this is it right here. So if anybody's seen this movie, this is going to bring trauma to them. Trauma, PDSD.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It sounds like a nice joyous song, but in the movie it is not. But it's a great movie. If you've never seen it, it's one of those seems like 90s movies back then. They just were well written, I feel. Another 90s movie that I always think is a really good one is called gosh.
Speaker 1:It's got Melanie Griffin in it, oh, when she's an alcoholic.
Speaker 2:No, she's trying to be a movie star. Have you ever seen that one? Oh sorry, let me go over here. Oh.
Speaker 1:I just, you just go back and press this back button. Okay, I can go right here. Yeah, okay, I'm going to put Google. I'm a Google person. I know I do too, but it won't. Let me set it to Google.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mine too.
Speaker 1:It's a Microsoft thing, isn't it? Those assholes I know.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fuck you, Microsoft yeah.
Speaker 2:Now Melanie Griffin looks so different right now, like she's like movies okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, working Girl, Do you know that?
Speaker 2:she's in Working Girl too.
Speaker 1:She is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's the main character.
Speaker 1:Is this the one I'm thinking? Was there one, though, that she was an alcoholic, with what's-his-face was her husband?
Speaker 2:Oh my God, look at her right here.
Speaker 1:She still looks hot. Oh, my God, remember Milk Money.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, yeah, let's hit movies here. Which one am I thinking of? I always love this movie. It's a 90s movie. Oh, here, crazy in Alabama.
Speaker 1:What's that about?
Speaker 2:So 99, this one came out and it's a movie about this. It's Millie Griffin and she wants to be a movie star and, uh, her husband doesn't want her to ever do anything. He's kind of abusive to her.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So she gets sick of his ass and she I forget how she does it, but she decapitates him.
Speaker 1:She decapitated him.
Speaker 2:It puts it in, puts his head in a Tupperware container, and then she decides that she wants to be famous. So she goes across the United States and just does what she actually wants to do, she kind of you know, with him, with his head.
Speaker 1:I gotta watch this.
Speaker 2:This is a great movie and it's a lot about the racism of the time. It's based off the 60s, I want to say, but it's a very good movie about what happens with racism and it's also about her being abused by him and actually sticking up for herself. And finally decapitating his ass, but she decapitates him right at the very beginning, you know good for her. Yeah, it's a very good movie, Good for her. It's kind of a weird movie, but I really like it and I think you would like it too. Actually.
Speaker 1:Look up, I want to look up the Seven People you Meet in Heaven.
Speaker 2:The Seven oh, that's it by Mitch Albom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mitch.
Speaker 2:Albom. Yeah, the five people you mean have been in this.
Speaker 1:Oh, the five people yeah.
Speaker 2:Actually I met him, Was that?
Speaker 1:in the 90s, the five people you met him.
Speaker 2:He lives in Detroit, mitch Albom does. He's a writer for the Detroit Free Press.
Speaker 1:Oh, the movie though.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:When was the movie?
Speaker 2:Wasn't that in the 90s? I would say that was 2000s and it was like a movie that was. It was like a made-for-TV movie With John Voight, I think, or something. Yeah, john Voight.
Speaker 1:John Voight yeah, when does it say it was made 2004.
Speaker 2:2004.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was off Well that's okay.
Speaker 2:It's still kind of that era though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the 2000s, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, I haven't watched this movie.
Speaker 1:I'm still stuck in like 2006.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like it still is. That was the year I started working at Takeout.
Speaker 1:That was the year I graduated 666.
Speaker 2:Oh goodness.
Speaker 1:June 6th of 2006.
Speaker 2:Wow, isn't that crazy. That is crazy.
Speaker 1:Is there anything else that you remember that's nostalgic about the 90s? Hmm, what hair products did you use? How was your hair? So I am Michael's hairstylist, yeah, and Kevin's, do you?
Speaker 2:want to know what it really was. What was it? I had the bull haircut that went in the back, the bull.
Speaker 1:Huh, what a shame, did you have the tail?
Speaker 2:No, no, rat tails no.
Speaker 1:My brother did and his friend Men's popular hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was that that was very popular, though. Everybody had that, it seemed, because I was in middle school in the 90s.
Speaker 1:Frosted tips. Hell yes, I gave Paul frosted tips before I used to have frosted tips.
Speaker 2:Let's just show you a picture of me in frosted tips.
Speaker 1:Oh, you probably looked sexy Michael.
Speaker 2:It hurt, though, when they did it, because they put that bag over your head and you pull it out yeah, the cap You'd be like ow so center part undercut.
Speaker 1:Greaser punk length pompadour taper fade was still popular in the 90s high top.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:There's like Leo there, that's awesome, the high top actually looks pretty good, still like. That seems like something normal yeah, and the taper fade is still in too. What else do you remember from the 90s?
Speaker 2:Michael's only a few years older than me. Yeah, just a couple. I already told them I'm 42 but I'm like 22 remember like the big thing in the 90s was laser tag. Remember like that was a big thing back. The 90s was laser tag. Remember Like that was a big thing back then Nickelodeon toys were the shit I had.
Speaker 1:my godmother, my aunt Sandy, got me the best. Oh my god, the Disney store.
Speaker 2:Oh yes. That's what I remember they still have all those animatronics on the top. Remember they would all be moving.
Speaker 1:I Yep, I loved, I always wanted the Little Mermaid one.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yep, yeah, See I remember going.
Speaker 1:What are your favorite Disney movies from the 90s? Oh, like, did you like Disney movies? I did.
Speaker 2:You know I do like Little Mermaid and stuff. I guess, see, like stuff like Quasimodo and stuff like that. I feel like I was kind of too old for that. I didn't really watch that. But anything like I guess like my favorite Disney would be like early stuff, kind of like the weird shit that they did yeah, I like Tamagotchis. Yeah, like when Jim Henson was like doing stuff like you guys ever seen. It wasn't Disney at the time, but it would be like lambreth that would be, oh, lambreth yep or what about fraggle rock?
Speaker 1:was that 80s or 90s?
Speaker 2:that was 80s. I remember being at my, at my mom's house that she lives in now, and then having raviolis at the table and then be watching fraggle rock in the 80s I was like five then it was oh, my so-called life.
Speaker 1:I know that was in the 90s what I was like five then it was, oh, my so-called life.
Speaker 2:I know that was in the 90s. What's this? Road to Avonlea? Remember that show? Road to Avonlea.
Speaker 1:No, but I remember that stupid show my cousin used to make me fucking laugh.
Speaker 2:That was on the Disney channel.
Speaker 1:Those stupid girls with the. That girl with the stupid bucket hat. Oh, I hated that show yeah there was a lot of. Oh dinosaurs. Oh I love the we used to always watch dinosaurs, Not the mama.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember. For some reason, when I think of dinosaurs, I think of Fuddruckers. We used to always go to a Fuddruckers restaurant. That still exists.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, my God, are you afraid of the dark? Oh, that used to scare us.
Speaker 2:Wasn't it so nice Like you would have, like a sleepover party? You'd make a little fort With blankets.
Speaker 1:And then you'd watch Foosballs and stuff. I was just talking. Who was I telling this to? It must have been a client, but we used to watch Salute your Shorts.
Speaker 2:Remember that yeah.
Speaker 1:Salute your Shorts. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Clarissa explains it all. What was remember? Ah, real Monsters 2.
Speaker 1:Yes, I actually. I have a flip book of that. When I was like eight, I made my own.
Speaker 2:But some of those episodes of who Are you Afraid of the Dark.
Speaker 1:Oh, Pete and Pete Were pretty scary.
Speaker 2:Pete, and Pete was always in that.
Speaker 1:Oh, so Weird was good too.
Speaker 2:There was a lot of great Nickelodeon shows at that time. What was it called X-Files? Oh, x-files, yep. What was that called, though? That was called Nick at Night, or Snick Saturday Night. Nick, nick, yep, oh, my god Ren and Stimpy.
Speaker 1:Are you Afraid of the Dark? She's All that, or no? I'm sorry, all that.
Speaker 2:All that, that was like the, I remember.
Speaker 1:Lori Beth was like my favorite, the chubby, funny one. I liked her too yeah. That was kind of like a Saturday Night Live show kind of in a way. Oh my God. All of my girlfriends always wanted to spend the night at my house because they had a crush on my brother, but we used to put the. My dad would put the old school tent up in the backyard.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, and I'd have a.
Speaker 1:I had to have a power cord going from the garage into the tent and I had the old TV with the video player in it.
Speaker 2:Oh, old TV with the video player in it. Oh wow, the VHS. See my buddy, one of my good friends at the time. Well see, I'm still good friends with him, but he moved away. But now we actually just moved back. We used to build like forts and stuff like that and it was such a good time. We would like make videos.
Speaker 1:Kids don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2:They don't build forts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was so fun, Did you and your siblings after Christmas when you guys were younger this is definitely a 90s thing all the boxes. My brother and I would make huge forts through the whole house.
Speaker 2:Oh, we didn't do that no.
Speaker 1:Man.
Speaker 2:So I was younger than everybody else of my two siblings, so they didn't like you because you were the baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was my sister was already married at that point she got married young she got married at 19, I want to say so. I was like eight or no she's. She's nine years older me, so I was 11 luca, are you eating your paw? Yeah, he's eating his paw well, that means he has a allergy or something like that. Sometimes that's what they mean no, he just. He just likes to nod himself sometimes so I never really watched Saved by the Bell but Carolina in the City, I think I for some reason watched that. I don't know why.
Speaker 1:I loved. I know this well. This is. I started watching it in the 90s. I know it was old, but, oh my God, wonder Years.
Speaker 2:Oh, Wonder Years.
Speaker 1:yeah, I started watching that in the 90s, oh Wonder Years.
Speaker 2:yes, I started watching that in the 90s. Roseanne was good then too.
Speaker 1:Roseanne was really good. Oh my God, Do you know?
Speaker 2:what we used to be saying.
Speaker 1:Oh, married with Children too.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, that was 90s. I don't know if this was 90s, but it might have been in the 80s more. But we used to watch a show called Love Connection. It was so inappropriate to watch as kids About people going on dates.
Speaker 1:I remember the With Tuck Wallery. Was that like the live, like when Jerry Springer and all that?
Speaker 2:um. So it was a love like dating show and it had chuck waller as the host and people go on yes, yes, yes, no, there's another, there's a newer one like this. So, from the 90s, love connection oh, it looks like andy cohen is the host of it shows like love connection, let's see.
Speaker 1:I remember it was live, it was blind date or something oh yeah it was around the time, jerry Springer.
Speaker 2:Remember Cheaters.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, oh my God, remember War of the Roses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that started in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1:God, we could go on and on and on. We're probably boring you guys. No people, at least the real ones out there are like oh yeah, it makes you happy talking about it. Oh, it was so much fun and people are like oh, that's what everyone thinks when you get older. But no, like the 90s, like early 2000s and even like the 80s were like the best era.
Speaker 2:I remember like in the 90s and 80s we used to go playing hide-and-go-seek. We'd play in the whole neighborhood. People didn't really care.
Speaker 1:Did you guys ever do the shaving cream? Instead of ding dong ditch, they would ring the doorbell. I remember being little and opening up the door and getting slapped with shaving cream in the face.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh no.
Speaker 1:Water balloon fights.
Speaker 2:No, we didn't do that Well, we did water balloon fights, but another thing that we used to do oh gosh, I just lost my brain.
Speaker 1:That's what I was going to say it's because we ate too much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but there was just so many. I mean, I remember doing prank phone calls.
Speaker 1:Yes, I had the fucking clueless phone.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Remember, is Amy Hunter there? Oh, my gosh, amy Hunter.
Speaker 2:I remember one of the weird things we used to do is there was a place called Farmer Jack's. Yeah, Farmer Jack's jack yeah, it was like a uh chain here in the michigan area there was one right at grocery stores yeah, well, one time we went there we would ride our bikes everywhere. That was. That was a big thing in the 90s, like riding bikes riding bikes and rollerblading yeah, so we just it was like almost a gang go somewhere and stuff throw your bikes out, yep and then we we realized one time is we would uh, we went to farmer jack's.
Speaker 2:We just went cool around there in the lobby. There used to have like a payphone there, so we noticed there was a phone number on there. So we went back to the house. We would sit there and call it call it and just let it ring all over and wait for something to pick up.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. I remember pay phones. Oh yeah, I used to have to use them at the movies. I have them, though, like you know people and wait for somebody to pick up. It's crazy. I remember pay phones. Oh yeah, I used to have to use them at the movies.
Speaker 2:We should really still have them though you know people are like, oh, they don't exist, but we really should have them for emergencies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 2:Because your phone's not always going to be there.
Speaker 1:Now I still remember when they were putting needles in the pay phones and the movie theater seats.
Speaker 2:Do you know? That's how Halloween almost got canceled in the year 82? Because of the needles, because people were saying that people were putting needles in the candy. In the candy. Not only that, but they thought that, luca. But what they were trying to do is actually. So there was Tylenol bottles called the Tylenol Killer and people were dying after taking Tylenol and they thought that there was a terrorist that was doing that and they thought that it was going to relate to the Halloween candy. So they actually were going to cancel Halloween.
Speaker 1:Well, what killed the people? The Tylenol.
Speaker 2:It was somebody at the factory and they was putting cyanide in them.
Speaker 1:That's so fucked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so when we did the Halloween event at the Crocker House, we actually did a special about the. It was called the Tylenol Terrorist and people were dying and you know they were worried that it was going to relate to Halloween, but it never did.
Speaker 1:Wow Signed it.
Speaker 2:It was like two weeks before Halloween in 82. It was my first Halloween, they got almost canceled.
Speaker 1:Oh my God See, michael loves Halloween. First halloween they got almost canceled. Oh my god see, michael loves halloween, like I do, but michael has the coolest decorations you talk about nostalgic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't. I used to do more of like a display, of like a theme, like one time it was um, like just like graveyard theme, and then it was clown theme, but now I've just kind of went to like mix it all together mix it well. I don't do like the display. I do more of like nostalgia things, so I do like.
Speaker 2:I have a lot of things called blow molds, so they're just like basically it's a plastic. Um, basically plastic like pumpkin, I guess you would say you put a light bulb in it, like they're also making for christmas, easter yeah, but I collect a lot of those and, and so I love those little windows, but I also collect, like, a lot of things people had in the 50s and 60s and stuff from Halloween.
Speaker 1:The old stuff. So yeah, it's Halloween's a weird holiday, like it's yeah but I think the old school Halloween, like in like the 30s and 40s is really scary.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like how the costumes were good then. Oh yeah, they were really basic, but they were kind of creepy though.
Speaker 1:Your Halloween party should be themed that this year.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you have a date for Cracker House yet I?
Speaker 2:believe it's the 25th of October, which I think is a. Let me look at it real quick on your computer, because he said the 26th. Let's just look. Oh, I just went way too far, so he said the 25th. So let's just look. Oh, I just went way too far, so he said the 25th, so it's a Friday the 25th.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a Friday.
Speaker 2:And the next day is the Paranormal Event. Nice If you guys are available.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will be. I'll take that day off of work, the 25th. Do you know about what time it's going to start?
Speaker 2:Usually around 5 or 6. So I mean we just switch. We do it so like parents come up, but it's like one of the few events that the Crocker House does, that's during the evening. So we like to like make the house look spooky a little bit, turn the lights down. We do candlelight but we don't do candles because we don't want to burn the house down.
Speaker 1:So it'll be a battery offering because it is historical landmark yep, it's the first mayor of mount clemens house tell them where it is again it is in downtown mount clemens.
Speaker 2:It was actually moved twice, so it was originally where buffalo wild wings eyes today and it's been moved. It was moved to like closer to um grash it and then it was now moved to uh Union Street, so it's how did they move?
Speaker 2:it. They moved it really slowly, so they actually one thing about interesting about the Victorian era it was very common to move a house and so what you would do is you would, if you actually moved your house, you would have a party, you'd invite all your friends over and then they would slowly move your house down the street with pulling my horses and they would slowly move like different logs underneath it and then just keep moving them around.
Speaker 1:Oh my.
Speaker 2:God. But you would have a party. Nobody would get drunk while the house was moving down the street, and that would be fun, could you move your house in Mount Clemens?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You could. One of the largest buildings ever moved in the United States was actually in Detroit. It was the Gem Theater in downtown Detroit. They moved it when they built Comerica Park.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:It's still there. It's a whole theater that was moved.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And actually in New York City there's a theater that they preserved and they wanted to build underneath it, so they actually raised the entire theater up.
Speaker 1:Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:I don't know how they do that.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that was a big thing in the Victorian time.
Speaker 2:I didn't either, but they used to have parties and they'd get drunk.
Speaker 1:That sounds like a great time, doesn't it? That sounds great.
Speaker 2:It was a common thing to actually just pick it up off the foundation and then just move it, just move it.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Well, then just move it, just move it, that's crazy. Well, you guys will have to check out. Come to the event. This year, the Cracker House. Michael puts a lot of time into it, a lot of his decorations will be there.
Speaker 2:We have a new director and we have a new assistant director. Her name is Alex she's really great and Jeff.
Speaker 1:I might be a little salty, yeah, but I'm still going, yes.
Speaker 2:They're a great team and they're um, taking on, you know, a lot of. So us as board members don't have to like, do as much. So it's nice, so, um, but they're going to have a lot of. It's going to be a great Halloween event. It's going to host that yes, and I hope we can do many more.
Speaker 1:So I'm hoping that Kind of opens up the door.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jeff is going to be a great. He's trying to do different things to get younger people there, so that's what we need.
Speaker 1:And we're just going to keep the podcast name as our group name Strange, Strange Beyond Insane Yep. I think that will be, it's easy.
Speaker 2:And that house is definitely. Did you know that something haunted happened after our event last year?
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Diane. She was telling me that there was definitely shit that happened after.
Speaker 1:Because we stirred it up.
Speaker 2:We stirred up that the doors were not closing after the event and she had to tell them stop, Let me close this building down. And then everything stopped, yeah, and then all the things are that's why I tell everybody you have the power.
Speaker 1:You can say stop, yeah, you can coexist and Diane's a non-believer of all this, oh she's not a believer. What does she think now?
Speaker 2:oh, she leaves now, yeah, exactly she repeats it to everybody, so get a place to haunt it down yeah, cuz we stirred everything up.
Speaker 1:What was it?
Speaker 2:oh that was my phone, but yeah so. So she's been promoting this. It is haunted out there.
Speaker 1:It is haunted so that was one of the questions.
Speaker 2:I don't know not to bring it up, but remember that was one of the questions when we talked with that paranormal guy that came to Mount Clemens. That was one of the questions I asked him. If a house is actually moved, does it still contain the hauntings of it?
Speaker 1:if it's moved, yes and no, they're, they're that's. That's such a great question. I mean, there's attachments to objects, there's attachments to people, to buildings to animals.
Speaker 2:Could it be the land where that building was too?
Speaker 1:so it could. There's, there could be a number of things. I'm sure the land, the building, the there's stuff in that building still that's attached, and also I'm a huge firm believer on energy. Like you yourself can stir shit up, yeah, you can. You can stir up a poltergeist, yeah, if you're really pissed off and you're having like a really bad week and you're at home you're slamming doors and there's bad things happening and you're just bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. That's bad juju and they. That feeds off that energy. Now a lot of people get it mixed up like oh my god, the place is haunted, everybody wants to run out just because somewhere is haunted, or hauntings.
Speaker 2:Hauntings even to me are memories right, like yeah it could be like residuals, it could be good memories.
Speaker 1:It could be good memories. It doesn't mean it's bad. Yeah, I I really really put a big emphasis on not using the d word demon demonic. Nobody can ever really prove that and it's very, very, very rare that it ever is that. Now think of it this way there's a lot of assholes in the living realm, so there's assholes in the afterlife too. It doesn't mean that they're demonic, they're just assholes but in general in society people are usually good. I would say most ghosts like an average.
Speaker 1:They just want to tell their story they want to tell, they want to be seen, they want to be heard they don't want to be for, or they don't know that they're dead.
Speaker 2:I mean they don't want to be forgotten they don't want to be forgotten. That's why we always talk about our parents that are deceased yeah that's how you honor them you gotta say who they were so people remember who they were but you guys, spooky season is, it has arrived we're coming in excited oh, the pumpkin queen, the pumpkin queen my pumpkins are huge.
Speaker 1:Outside they're gonna be massive.
Speaker 2:I have a huge ass pumpkin patch oh my gosh, that's awesome and I want I want to carve a pumpkin for the crocker house, like a really cool pumpkin. So I think one of the things we might do different this year. What I read online it's a so we're going to do a dance contest just as a joke.
Speaker 1:Oh, with the witches, how you guys did.
Speaker 2:But so this is different. So we're going to still do that, but you're going to have a skeleton and we're going to have a dance off and everybody's going to have like a skeleton they're dancing with, and so that's going to be like the music and you have to like pick who is the best dancer, where you're dancing with them A fake partner racing with a skeleton.
Speaker 1:I nominate you to be the dancer.
Speaker 2:Well, it's everyone. Anybody can do it, so you get to vote.
Speaker 1:Who's the best dancer? Yeah.
Speaker 2:So everybody has their own skeleton.
Speaker 1:You're going to dance with a skeleton right?
Speaker 2:Wouldn't that be kind of fun?
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Just weird stuff you got to do like that Am I doing.
Speaker 1:Tarot readings again.
Speaker 2:They would love for you to do that, okay.
Speaker 1:Can I go a little bit later? Yes, yeah, and I'm going to have to not make my readings as long.
Speaker 2:And they wanted to separate you, so you're more in a central location.
Speaker 1:Okay. But, maybe you could possibly do that tomorrow, the day after too. Yes, yeah, hell, yeah, hey. And if you guys want to come and get spooky with us, michael is working out a paranormal event after the Cracker House event.
Speaker 2:It's the 26th of October. It's a Saturday.
Speaker 1:So is there a capacity of people?
Speaker 2:This was just a brief talking at Meyers real quick. Okay, he says to put it on the calendar, so he wants it. But I'm thinking this is just going to be the beginning of many things for Paranormal.
Speaker 1:Linger, yay. Finally, the Crocker House. Yes, I would love if they allowed it. It could be like our main.
Speaker 2:They love it.
Speaker 1:I mean Because our team needs like a main hub.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll be honest, I'm just. I've been dragging my feet just because I have my ADD all over the place, but they've been like saying. They always say to me we need to get Mel back to do these the readings and we want to have the Paranormal Group back.
Speaker 1:I told you I would help and I would definitely work with all of them at the Cracker House. I mean, I think it's great. Michael is very involved with Mount Clemens. He's lived there for a long time. You own many properties. You've worked very hard to have the community do a lot.
Speaker 2:It's a great community. It really is.
Speaker 1:Oh, I want to check out that barbershop too by your house, that little cute one.
Speaker 2:Oh, the one in Roseville.
Speaker 1:No, the one right down the street from here. Oh, that one.
Speaker 2:Now, if you really want to see a really cool barbershop, go to downtown Roseville, michigan. It's where I had my first haircut. I believe I went there. I was waiting for my friend Sarah, because her place in Roseville is called the Smokehouse. I can't think of the name right now, but my friend Sarah's.
Speaker 1:The one that I like. Yes, the little cute one, yes, her uncle has a bar.
Speaker 2:I can't think of the name, oh gosh, I want to say Smokehouse, but it's not the name of it. Anyways, we were meeting there and I wanted to go downtown Roseville because I was too early. And I looked in the place where I had my original haircut and I looked in the window and I remember what it used to look like as a very young kid. It has not changed in 40 years. Wow, you have to go to that place.
Speaker 1:How many barbers were working.
Speaker 2:It was closed at that point, but it has the old barber chairs.
Speaker 1:How many chairs do you think were in there?
Speaker 2:Four or five, I would say. And it says we're at the door, no new customers.
Speaker 1:I'm still kind of in the flex of like maybe going back to a full-service salon.
Speaker 2:Oh, that'd be good.
Speaker 1:And I still want to do like barber shop, maybe one or two days a week.
Speaker 2:That'd be good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, I want to do like a hybrid schedule, but I'm always going to be doing fucking hair. I mean, I've been doing it since I yeah.
Speaker 2:I've had my license since 2007. You're really good at what you do, so.
Speaker 1:I love it. I put you know how I cook is how I do hair. You know I put love into it. Mm-hmm, I like doing it, I like talking to people Kathy's Speaking of Chatty Kathy. What do you see right now?
Speaker 2:Oh, there's Chatty Kathy. We got her from the Armada.
Speaker 1:Michael got me Chatty Kathy doll, she's 1962.
Speaker 2:Yep, she was. I saw her because Excuse me my voice Her eye is a little. Her left eye is a little more closed than the other one, it's just googly eyed, and then her right eye is looking up into her skull it looks like me if I was a doll. Yeah, and that how I look and that looks like her, the person that had her cut her own hair so she looks really messed.
Speaker 1:She looks like she could have been in a fire too possibly, and she's got like a weird, like jumper on. That's not original you want to tell about the buggy you surprised me with too.
Speaker 2:Oh yes. So just to finish this one about the Chattie Cathy. When I saw her there she was $5, which was very cheap. She's way worth it. But I actually bought her from the original owner. So the lady that I bought her from that was her original little girl.
Speaker 1:So that was kind of cool Did she say she's been in a fire?
Speaker 2:She didn't say that, but she looks like it. She's been in a fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe got dropped in the bonfire.
Speaker 2:She's got her two front teeth and her eyes are all screwy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's got buck teeth like me. She looks just like me.
Speaker 2:No, but you got a. I would say it's 1890s, maybe 1900s. Latest would be 1920s. Buggy, it's for babies. It's original. Because you actually flip it over, you can actually use the original company that made it. They made a lot of that stuff in the 80s. And it's got mechanical brake for them, so if you need to stop the baby. But it's an original buggy.
Speaker 1:Michael, surprise me.
Speaker 2:Well, we went last year to that Paranormal Circus. My friend and Kevin and I were there.
Speaker 1:I was obsessed with that girl pushing that big buggy. Yeah, so you're like I've never seen one I would love to get it, so I always remember that Aw Michael's. So thoughtful.
Speaker 2:In Mount Clemens they had Max and Ollie's Boutique. It's my little favorite antique store.
Speaker 1:Where's that one at?
Speaker 2:It's on Macomb Street, that it's on McComb Street. It's where I sent you the picture of it.
Speaker 1:Do you know the Mimi's Closet? Oh, mimi's Attic, or Mimi's Attic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like one building off my. It's right next to my house, basically.
Speaker 1:That's where Teresa got my raggedy hand from.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, yeah, I know. Oh, what's her name. Can I find my, the main worker name?
Speaker 1:The main worker, that's Teresa's friend.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:She's like in her 40s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, katrina, katrina, katrina.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She's awesome. I love Katrina.
Speaker 1:Is there a lot of cool stuff in there. I gotta go there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't really. I do once in a while, but I should go there more often.
Speaker 1:It's right by you, but you like to venture out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do. It's right by you, but you like to venture out. Yeah, I do. It's almost like it's too close, yeah, but anyways. So Diane put up, I figure if it was like horror movies themed in Mount Clemens that year for Halloween and she did something about Rosemary's Baby, so she made her front window.
Speaker 1:That's a good movie.
Speaker 2:She made her front window Rosemary's Baby themed. So that was the buggy from her front window Rosemary Bear, rosemary's baby theme. So that was the buggy from her front window. And I asked her if it was for sale. She said she would sell it to me after Halloween. So she ended up selling it to me and I've been holding it ever since in my house.
Speaker 1:I know Me and Paul gotta go get it. It's a beautiful wicker buggy. It is so cool. It's like pushing a lawnmower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's big too. It's big. It's got a little bounce to it too when you're going.
Speaker 1:I'll put all my dolls in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I figured.
Speaker 1:You think Luca can fit in there? She might.
Speaker 2:It's really cool though.
Speaker 1:It is really cool, it's really hard to find one.
Speaker 2:That good of condition too, I feel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 2:Actually, that originally came from Katrina.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Katrina sold it to Diane and I bought it from Diane.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, talk about nostalgic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:Are we going to go back to that paranormal circus again?
Speaker 2:I would love to go see that again. That was good. Remember there was like a tornado that right after that yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, we got crazy weather last year too so the world is it's changing?
Speaker 2:yeah, well it's. It was a hot summer this year, a lot of rain, a lot of heat it was very um jungle like it felt, but I felt like from from the um pandemic year which was 2020, till last year, we had great weather.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just this year.
Speaker 1:This has kind of been like a boring summer for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, there was not many good days to do anything. No.
Speaker 1:No, well, michael, thank you for hopping on, all right. Thank you for having me. And I'm still so full from that pizza. If you guys are in the area, it's called Ale and Eddie's Tap Room.
Speaker 2:It's right on 13 Mile and Hayes and that's Warren.
Speaker 1:Warren, it used to be JP Shakers, but God was that pizza. Hey you guys. Thank you again for listening and thank you again, Michael, for joining tonight on this podcast. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2:It was great to talk about the 90s nostalgia.
Speaker 1:Yes, and hopefully we go back to the 90s. I'm still holding out, but anyways, you guys tune in for some more.
